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Planet Nine: Is the search for this elusive world nearly over?
Live Science ^ | June 14, 2024 | Harry Baker

Posted on 09/01/2024 8:55:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Scientists found that Sedna... had a weird orbit around the sun... hinted that another large mass in the outer solar system was gravitationally pulling on the miniworld...

Then, in a 2014 study, astronomers announced that they had detected... 2012 VP113, with an eccentric orbit similar to Sedna's... Since 2016, Brown, Batygin and others... have discovered even more eccentric TNOs — bringing the total to 13...

Planet Nine's composition is probably "most like Neptune," ... around 500 astronomical units away from the sun...

This far out, it could take between 5,000 and 10,000 years for Planet Nine to complete a single trip around the sun. Its orbit is probably highly elliptical... also likely does not orbit on the same plane as the rest of the planets...

Planet Nine's unusual orbit and extreme distance from the sun also raise the possibility that it could be a rogue planet... captured by the sun... However, Brown and Batygin believe Planet Nine likely formed alongside the other planets in the solar system...

Doubts about Planet Nine are rooted in alternative potential explanations ... an invisible giant disk of dust or a historic close encounter with a rogue planet... [or] that our model of gravity needs to be tweaked.

Others believe the apparent TNO kinks are simply an "observational bias," because it is easier to spot TNOs that are closer to Earth than more distant ones, Samantha Lawler, an astronomer at the University of Regina in Canada and a prominent critic of the Planet Nine hypothesis, told Live Science in an email...

In their most recent work, Brown and Batygin analyzed data from the Panoramic Survey Telescope and Rapid Response System (Pan-STARRS) at Haleakala Observatory in Hawaii and confidently ruled out around 78% of the suspected orbital pathway...

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: 2012vp113; astronomy; catastrophism; jkonstantinbatygin; johnmatese; konstantinbatygin; mikebrown; science; sedna; tno; xplanets
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To: HombreSecreto

LOL!

I used to have a reel-to-reel, which made dubbing that onto cassette pretty easy. The deck is long ago sold, but the cassette transfer is around here somewhere. I’d be surprised if there isn’t rip of it on YT.


41 posted on 09/02/2024 9:28:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Ah, you spotted this, "...or a historic close encounter with a rogue planet...", nice job!

The asteroid belt makes no sense to me without it, particluarly because of the large size of irregular mineral "particles," but now that we see so many crossing orbits, it becomes more obvious that such is only a matter of time.

You might find it fascinating that this perspective of preparation for eventual catastrophe is elemental to an honest understanding of Genesis. It surely ain't no ex nihilo Creation story.

42 posted on 09/02/2024 9:29:49 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: jonrick46; Buttons12

Nope. We’ll get killed by some other, much smaller piece of space crap, that’s the royal we, so, I’m not worried either.


43 posted on 09/02/2024 9:30:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: BrandtMichaels

It’ll collide with its evil twin, Enintenalp.


44 posted on 09/02/2024 9:31:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: MuttTheHoople; Disambiguator; jmacusa; Larry Lucido

That’s the one. Flaming globes of Sigmund.


45 posted on 09/02/2024 9:32:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv; MuttTheHoople; Disambiguator; jmacusa; SaveFerris; PROCON; Gamecock

I believe it was all in that documentary, Planet Nine From Outer Space.


46 posted on 09/02/2024 9:34:03 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: Conan the Librarian
For those who still think Pluto is a full planet, I suggest reading “How I Killed Pluto and Why It had it Coming” by Mike Brown,

Dr. Alan Stern wrote a response to that in an article: "“Why Pluto is a Planet, The Embarrassment of the IAU, and Why They Had It Coming”

It's mentioned in a Forbes article about Stern.

47 posted on 09/02/2024 9:42:51 AM PDT by Angelino97
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To: Larry Lucido

Fax me some halibut.


48 posted on 09/02/2024 10:22:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Carry_Okie
The main asteroid belt was at one time thought to be the debris of either a planet that got destroyed in a collision, or the potential material that never quite formed as a planet in that location. Nowadays it's generally thought to be material of various origin that has been shepherded into a ring of debris by Jupiter and the Sun.

49 posted on 09/02/2024 10:26:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Nowadays it's generally thought to be material of various origin that has been shepherded into a ring of debris by Jupiter and the Sun.

Knew that. Personally I think it's too close to Jupiter and too confined for that to be true.

I like, "We don't know yet." It's true of too many 'scientific conclusions' in my book.

50 posted on 09/02/2024 10:38:57 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: SunkenCiv

No matter what planet you go to none of them last forever give up the utopia dream it’s all it is deal with reality.


51 posted on 09/02/2024 10:45:57 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

Thanks, nice incoherence.


52 posted on 09/02/2024 11:12:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Carry_Okie

It’s based on observation and math, that’s why it is considered true. Unlike the status of Pluto, it isn’t up for a vote.


53 posted on 09/02/2024 11:13:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If he was, he was a highly educated fraud and a lot of archeologists still use him for reference. He may not have been right on some things but on many things he was and still is. Aside from that he was not the only one who speculated about the 3600 year cycle, as Immanuel Velikovsky also made a pretty well documented case for it. But to each his own as we are still entitled to our own opinions. Take care and have a great day!


54 posted on 09/02/2024 11:20:24 AM PDT by Saintgermain ( )
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To: Saintgermain

There are zero archaeologists who take Sitchin’s BS seriously.

The orbital characteristics he claimed for his fictional planet don’t work in Newtonian/Keplerian terms, which isn’t surprising, because they’re entirely made up.

Velikovsky didn’t have anything to do with any 3600 year cycle. Sitchin once claimed that Worlds In Collision came out about the same time as his own monstrosity, but of course it was published more than 25 years earlier.

These are facts, not opinions.


55 posted on 09/02/2024 11:27:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I can’t find it, but after New Horizons beamed back telemetry data post-flyby, to effectively indicate that it didn’t get destroyed by rocks etc during the flyby, Alan Stern came into the auditorium waving a small, hand-held American flag. It was very cool.

Here is a video of Alan Stern reviewing that moment - note at the 1:02 mark the American flags in the coffee cups. https://youtu.be/hi7Si4Ssos4

New Horizons may the the last, great moment of purely American pioneering space exploration.

I hope not.


56 posted on 09/02/2024 12:05:30 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: DoodleBob

He’s got a good head on his shoulders.


57 posted on 09/02/2024 12:09:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ah ha mirror mirror!


58 posted on 09/02/2024 12:33:22 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( Quit dreaming I'm told, never says the Broomstick Cowboy = All things are possible with God!)
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To: BrandtMichaels

Speaking of which, ever seen this one? It’s an unintentionally hilarious, crappier version of a Twilight Zone episode:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_to_the_Far_Side_of_the_Sun


59 posted on 09/02/2024 12:39:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: SunkenCiv
It’s based on observation and math, that’s why it is considered true. That was understood.
60 posted on 09/02/2024 12:41:06 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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