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Russia's Winter Offensive & The War in Ukraine - The Initiative, losses, & air, sea & land campaigns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvCL15fsphE ^ | 1/28/2024 | Perun

Posted on 01/28/2024 9:44:37 AM PST by Chode

Even as global attention is pulled in a dozen different directions, the fighting in Ukraine continues amidst a winter cold that provides better conditions than the mud seasons. .

Russia's offensive has focused on Avidiivka, but fighting has been hard at multiple places along the front.

In this episode, we look at the recent fighting, from Avidiivka to the great Patriot missile road trip, examine the available loss data, look into the question of casualties and mobilisation (including some Sergei Shoigu math) and close out by touching on the wider sustainability issues probably deserve further discussion.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
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1 posted on 01/28/2024 9:44:37 AM PST by Chode
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To: Chode

Bookmark, short on time today.


2 posted on 01/28/2024 10:01:42 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Chode

The big picture from what I’ve gathered so far here and elsewhere is that Russia is very slowly taking small bites of territory and Ukraine is worried about material shortages, as always. There are no death/wounded stats for either side that can be trusted. The slow pace of the ground movement indicates both sides are taking pretty heavy losses. That a loser over time for Ukraine.

If the arms supply dries up, the war ends quickly. If the arms supply keeps up, Ukraine continues to lose slowly.

Your thoughts?


3 posted on 01/28/2024 10:33:31 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Chode

About 6 weeks until the whole area turns back into shell churned mud...


4 posted on 01/28/2024 10:55:05 AM PST by glorgau
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To: Navy Patriot

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5 posted on 01/28/2024 11:06:47 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: SaxxonWoods

If the arms supply dries up, the war ends quickly. If the arms supply keeps up, Ukraine continues to lose slowly.

prettymuch

a war of attrition for UKR, what happens first, do they run out of projos or do the tubes wear out???

defense is on their side

but RUS can’t sustain their losses attacking either...


6 posted on 01/28/2024 11:14:47 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: glorgau

or less


7 posted on 01/28/2024 11:15:30 AM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: SaxxonWoods
As a large country with a repressive security state and a traditional reliance on brutal attrition tactics, Russia's military aims to gather enough men and material to grind Ukraine down for a victory of some sort. Nevertheless, the economic and political strains on Russia are such that she cannot achieve victory at a bearable cost.

Putin has signaled repeatedly that he is open to a peace deal of some sort, and the accumulating damage to Russia is more severe than is generally realized. The critical imponderables for Ukraine are Western support and the prospects for a coup against Putin. For the US and Europe, the Ukraine War is integral to security challenges around the world, with continuing losses or a defeat a plus. My guess is that the war will continue.

8 posted on 01/28/2024 3:26:23 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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To: Rockingham
Russia's military aims to gather enough men and material to grind Ukraine down for a victory of some sort. Nevertheless, the economic and political strains on Russia are such that she cannot achieve victory at a bearable cost.

The Russians have always fought their wars like this.

9 posted on 01/28/2024 3:29:15 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Rockingham
My guess is that the war will continue.

If Trump wins, there will be a ceasefire signed by January 2025.

10 posted on 01/28/2024 3:29:57 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
In recent years, Putin made a major push for a more modern, US and NATO style Russian army. That required a reliable career NCO and junior officer corps, better training, and modern weapons and tactics. After billions were laid out for those purposes with encouraging reports back, Putin thought that the Russian army could roll over Ukraine like they did Georgia.

When put to the test of combat though, it was revealed that corruption, incompetence, and lack of genuine reforms had subverted the effort and led to the humiliation of the Russian army in the 2023 invasion of Ukraine. Now Russia is reverting to her traditional, casualty heavy tactics. I do not believe that they will be successful, at least not at a cost that a Russia in demographic and industrial decline can afford.

Oliver Stone's documentary about Putin proved (to my eye at least) that he is an intelligent and determined autocrat corrupted by power and wealth and surrounded by yes men. Such a combination rarely ends well.

11 posted on 01/28/2024 7:58:27 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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I do not believe that they will be successful, at least not at a cost that a Russia in demographic and industrial decline can afford.

Putin might win. All he has to do is to hold on until January of 2025. If Trump wins, Putin will demands concessions from Zelensky in order to sign the ceasefire. No EU. No NATO. And Russia gets to keep the occupied territories.

12 posted on 01/28/2024 8:14:22 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Putin has recently signaled that he is open to a negotiated peace that includes EU and NATO membership for Ukraine. He has likely realized that the victory he aimed for -- the subjugation of Ukraine -- is out of reach and that continuation of the war and strengthened sanctions will permanently diminish Russia's strength and strategic options.

In addition, China and Iran are problematic allies for Russia at best, and the impending seizure of Russian assets abroad will inflict considerable financial pain on Putin and his criminal and oligarch allies. And if Trump is elected in 2024, he will put the screws to Russia and Putin through a hard peace terms. If nothing else, that will end the Left's Trump-Russia line of attack and warn China and Iran that with Trump in charge, the US is not to be messed with.

13 posted on 01/28/2024 8:41:28 PM PST by Rockingham (`)
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