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1 posted on 01/13/2024 11:49:30 PM PST by dennisw
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My local ChiCom buffet is good value for my money. Should these be banned too?


2 posted on 01/13/2024 11:52:25 PM PST by dennisw (Be positive. Every day is a new day.These)
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I just rode in a BYD car/taxi in Tromso Norway this past week. Surprisingly nice vehicle. They will kill US automakers if they come on shore in the US.


3 posted on 01/13/2024 11:55:54 PM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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I just rode in a BYD car/taxi in Tromso Norway this past week. Surprisingly nice vehicle. They will kill US automakers if they come on shore in the US.


4 posted on 01/13/2024 11:55:59 PM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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DOWN WITH DISTORTION!!

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9 posted on 01/14/2024 1:23:39 AM PST by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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Our economy has been a slave to China since NAFTA.


10 posted on 01/14/2024 1:51:41 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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11 posted on 01/14/2024 1:56:28 AM PST by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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China cheating? Nah, can’t be. Never happen. LOL


15 posted on 01/14/2024 2:38:49 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (America -- July 4, 1776 to November 3, 2020 -- R.I.P.)
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Walmart comes to the auto industry:

“the carmaker keeps its costs low partly by owning the entire supply chain of its...”


17 posted on 01/14/2024 3:26:45 AM PST by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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For Germany this is a major problem. The German car MFGs are exporters of cars to earn the country money. That money yield’s unions, high wages, good living for all. Now the Germans have mandated the change to EVs. EVs required 30% fewer workers since no ICE. That means 250,000 less working unionized, high paying jobs in Germany! Now Germans have allowed the CCP cars into Germany. The CCP cars are built by very low cost labor. So now the German’s have killed their car business model .


19 posted on 01/14/2024 5:20:38 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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An Allianz Trade report last year said that China’s EV makers pose a significant threat to Europe’s carmakers, particularly the “automotive-dependent economies of Germany, Slovakia and Czech Republic.” The report called for higher tariffs on Chinese EVs, estimating they could cost Europe’s carmakers 7 billion euros a year in lost profits by 2030.

In the EU, Chinese-made EVs typically sell for 20% less than those made in the bloc, and their share of the EV market, which has grown to 8%, could reach 15% by 2025, according to Reuters.

“No one can match BYD on price. Period,” Michael Dunne, CEO of Asia-focused car consultancy Dunne Insights, told the Financial Times earlier this month. “Boardrooms in America, Europe, Korea, and Japan are in a state of shock.”

Tesla CEO Elon Musk has gone from laughing about the quality of BYD cars in 2011 to suggesting recently that Chinese companies will emerge as dominant players in the global automotive industry.

In the EU, Chinese EV makers face 10% tariffs, versus 27.5% in the U.S. That’s encouraged them to target Europe as their home market gets increasingly crowded, although they’re also growing in Southeast Asia, Mexico, Australia, and elsewhere. Indeed, China has recently overtaken Japan as the world’s largest car exporter.

This month, BYD’s first chartered cargo ship—dubbed the “BYD Explorer No. 1”—embarked on its maiden voyage. Capable of carrying 7,000 cars, its destination is, predictably, Europe.

This story was originally featured on Fortune.com


20 posted on 01/14/2024 5:57:37 AM PST by dennisw (Be positive. Every day is a new day.These)
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We shall see. We’re going to see many more instances of spontaneous combustion of EV’s...Chinese vehicles are known for this at much higher rates. I’m sure there’s many areas of the supply chain that uses sweatshop laborers.


24 posted on 01/14/2024 7:36:00 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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One of the Chinese battery makers recently outsold Tesla


25 posted on 01/14/2024 7:39:57 AM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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Let’s see now. Musk and Tesla strive to cut prices aggressively year over year.

Government’s push their auto manufacturers to raise prices.


Tech companies such as Tesla are YOUNG Corporate entities.

Auto companies are OLD entities with problems dating back to before anyone was born at this point.

Tesla tries to give the customer more for money in technology and style; Auto companies focus on profit.

In the EU every auto company is 45-49 percent owned by the National Government.

Greedy politicians are the problem. End their own personal corruption.

EU Energy prices are 4-6 times higher than the USA since NORDSTREAM I & II timeframe.

EU has only themselves to blame for high taxes 30-70 percent on wages, corporations, and taxes on energy paid from whatever was left after taxes for another 80% petro tax.

The Ukraine War Domestic Political Management across the EU to include planned and directed disruption of farming makes prices higher in the EU.

EU are more a Communist-Democracy than the Social-Democracy they were just 3 years ago.

The EU cannot take half of corporate earnings, half to 70 percent of peoples wages, and then expect their overtaxed economy to compete at time that energy costs have risen 4x for NG and 3x diesel and 3x for petro.

Shutting down the last German Nuclear Plant was the kill shot for EU competitiveness.


26 posted on 01/14/2024 9:06:43 AM PST by Jumper
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