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With EU carmakers in a ‘state of shock’ over Tesla-beating BYD’s prices, EU investigators will visit China’s EV giants as part of an anti-subsidy probe
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Posted on 01/13/2024 11:49:30 PM PST by dennisw

BYDDY ▼‎-0.54%‎ TESLA, INC. TSLA ▼‎-3.67%‎

Now, investigators from the European Commission will visit Chinese EV makers as part of a probe into whether they have an unfair advantage thanks to government subsidies.

In the coming weeks, the EU investigators will visit BYD, Geely, and SAIC, according to Reuters. Their visits will help determine whether the EU imposes higher tariffs to protect European carmakers.

BYD recently overtook Elon Musk’s Tesla as the global leader in sales of electric vehicles. Backed by Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway, the carmaker keeps its costs low partly by owning the entire supply chain of its EV batteries, significant since a battery accounts for roughly 40% of an electric vehicle’s price. But as the existence of the EU’s anti-subsidy investigation suggests, many worry there’s more than supply-chain efficiencies behind the low prices of Chinese EVs. The visits promise to be central to the EU probe, announced in September and set to run for 13 months.

Chinese EVs 'distorting our market' “Their price is kept artificially low by huge state subsidies. This is distorting our market,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said in September of Chinese EVs. “And as we do not accept this distortion from the inside in our market, we do not accept this from the outside.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Food
KEYWORDS: automotive; byd; china; electric; europe; tesla
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To: Jonty30

I have been an anti-free trade xenophobe since 1988. Anti illegal immigration too/ Pat Buchannan was THE MAN!


21 posted on 01/14/2024 6:01:17 AM PST by dennisw (Be positive. Every day is a new day.These)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Chinese landfill.


22 posted on 01/14/2024 6:03:37 AM PST by cp124 (The Democrats hate America.)
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To: dennisw

The problem with “free trade” is that it cannot exist in the modern world.

Subsidies, tax differences, regulatory regimes and a thousand other government interventions means the playing field is incredibly complex and anything but free no matter where you are.

At this point any country that does not play to win is just dumb.


23 posted on 01/14/2024 6:06:57 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: dennisw

We shall see. We’re going to see many more instances of spontaneous combustion of EV’s...Chinese vehicles are known for this at much higher rates. I’m sure there’s many areas of the supply chain that uses sweatshop laborers.


24 posted on 01/14/2024 7:36:00 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: dennisw

One of the Chinese battery makers recently outsold Tesla


25 posted on 01/14/2024 7:39:57 AM PST by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: dennisw

Let’s see now. Musk and Tesla strive to cut prices aggressively year over year.

Government’s push their auto manufacturers to raise prices.


Tech companies such as Tesla are YOUNG Corporate entities.

Auto companies are OLD entities with problems dating back to before anyone was born at this point.

Tesla tries to give the customer more for money in technology and style; Auto companies focus on profit.

In the EU every auto company is 45-49 percent owned by the National Government.

Greedy politicians are the problem. End their own personal corruption.

EU Energy prices are 4-6 times higher than the USA since NORDSTREAM I & II timeframe.

EU has only themselves to blame for high taxes 30-70 percent on wages, corporations, and taxes on energy paid from whatever was left after taxes for another 80% petro tax.

The Ukraine War Domestic Political Management across the EU to include planned and directed disruption of farming makes prices higher in the EU.

EU are more a Communist-Democracy than the Social-Democracy they were just 3 years ago.

The EU cannot take half of corporate earnings, half to 70 percent of peoples wages, and then expect their overtaxed economy to compete at time that energy costs have risen 4x for NG and 3x diesel and 3x for petro.

Shutting down the last German Nuclear Plant was the kill shot for EU competitiveness.


26 posted on 01/14/2024 9:06:43 AM PST by Jumper
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To: dennisw

It’s hard to compete against slave labor.


27 posted on 01/14/2024 9:45:09 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Asking questions is your right.)
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To: Jumper

“EU Energy prices are 4-6 times higher than the USA since NORDSTREAM I & II timeframe.”

Yep, they chose a side in the Ukraine (the Neocon side), and I guess they didn’t factor-in what that meant for their economies, particularly Germany’s.

(but, to be fair, the Neocons would have blown up Germany’s pipelines with or without Germany’s consent, as they all but promised that outcome)


28 posted on 01/14/2024 12:30:25 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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