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RUSSIAN Collapse Accelerates as Gas Sales Evaporate & Huge Discounts on Gas Given to China
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Posted on 09/22/2023 4:17:15 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

RUSSIAN Revenue from Natural Gas has EVAPORATED due to the Economic Sanctions. Russia is struggling to be able to replace the lost revenue as they do not have the Infrastructure to convert Natural Gas to LNG and it will take DECADES to negotiate and build new pipelines. In this video I look at the current situation for Russia & Europe and ask whether there is a risk that Europe could face Shortages in Winter 2023/4.

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To: kabar

We gave intense and extensive help to Iraq, you ignored the question of whether you were against it, or against aiding Afghanistan or Tibet, or other such wars.

None of those were like what Russia has done to us.

See post 31 for examples of that.


61 posted on 09/23/2023 3:56:10 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: blitz128

I don’t like to address morality in these matters. The winners write the history books. I know for a fact I saw transcripts of Zelensky speeches in late 2021 in which he was very clear that he sought nuclear weapons.

But it is best to ignore that, because moral justification decides nothing.

Russia has a Central Bank with a balance sheet of 53 million Rubles. There is no dollar equivalent. Dollars are not used in Russia, and currency exchange markets reside in hostile countries so there is no reason to presume they are not govt controlled. And so the RCB has created about 20 million Rubles for internal consumption over the past year.

This is important because the Soviet Union did not have a CB capable of whimsically creating money outside the constraints of the Interior Ministry’s 5 year plan. It had nothing to do with SDI or Reagan. They made the mistake of treating money as if it had to make sense. They did not create it whimsically, as does our CB.

If they had had today’s CB, they would still exist.


62 posted on 09/23/2023 5:19:47 AM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: USA-FRANCE
You are a useful idiot in many ways.

First off, you are giving support to a man who is a traitor to this nation and everything he does is designed to weaken this nation while enriching himself.

Putin was doing nothing more than protecting his people, as a leader of a nation should.

He tried for 8 years to get the International community involved in securing an end to hostilities in eastern Ukraine.

As I said before, when Angela Merkel exposed the truth regarding the Minsk Accords & that they were only a ruse to buy time to equip & train the Ukrainian military, that was a game changer for Putin. You threaten someone, they are going to react in kind. Just as if I threatened you, you would react.

But that is not my concern. My concern is this nation, & anyone that supports the actions of traitor Joe has earned themselves all the ire I have left in me. The fact that I have to explain this to you just proves that you are an idiot.

I think you are clueless as to just how dangerous & precarious the fate of this nation is resting upon currently. We are in massive debt, the nation is being invaded, it is being torn apart internally . The middle class is being decimated, which is where this nation has derived her strength since her inception, along with freedoms that were unthinkable pervious to her inception, and stupid little people like you are concerned about the nation of Ukraine. For what, they are not a beacon of hope for anyone. They are but another corrupt nation whose has created their own problems by their own actions.

The world would have far more hope if this nation got its act together and started behaving quite differently as well, for we have become like the shithole nations, sinking to their levels of corruption, rather than lifting ourselves up along with the world. The fact that you do not see that is yet anther way you are a box of rocks, intelligence wise.

63 posted on 09/23/2023 5:30:29 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: USA-FRANCE; kabar; Sacajaweau; AndyJackson; BobL; ichabod1; JonPreston; Owen; Revel; ...
First off, I do not trust a crook to be capable of winning a war, and the whole administration is full of crooks.

But beyond that, this war didn't need to happen, and it wasn't Putin who started the events that eventually led to this war.

The events were started by the likes of Obama, Victoria Nuland & most likely the CIA with the color revolutions they have become experts at executing.

I am tired that they dragged the American public into another conflict when we are so deep in debt, especially after the BS of Covid.

Supposedly Biden was going to bring the nation together, but he has divided it even further, and what he has done to encourage invaders into this nation is out-n-out treason in my book.

Your hatred for Putin, may or may not be justified. He is not my problem, and I have seen no evidence whatsoever of his demonic designs to rule the world. I see that more so in Xi Jinping & the CCP than I do Russia or Putin. Russia is not the what the USSR was, and it never will be.

You constantly contradict your narrative of Putin & Russia, with your posts, yet you fail to even see that. Because all of your posts state how Russia is close to imploding , troops are being killed in massive quantities, while at the same time going on about what a massive threat he is to the world. It's hard to take anyone who contradicts their own fears, with the nonsense you post, seriously.

In other words, you have this hair-on-fire concern, coupled with things that claim Putin & Russia are on the ropes.

You buy into the belief that Joe is helping Ukraine because he cares about Ukraine, their sovereignty & their borders, when he has made it quite evident that he doesn't care about the borders of the nation he leads. You can't even recognize that glaring contradiction.

You remind me of a person who doesn't think for themselves, because if you did you would see these glaring discrepancies, but you don't see them at all.

This marvelous Democracy that you are willing to throw money, along with armaments & munitions that are meant to protect our nation at a lost cause, and Joe should never have been allowed to lead to us into this debacle that has no pluses for you and I. Oh, it most likely would be a boon for those invested in BlackRock, but the ordinary citizens would get the bill that pays the wealthy more of our hard earned money. You are clueless as to what Eisenhower was even talking about when he warned of the military-industrial complex. Now they have opened up a new scheme with global warming, and their latest is the pharmaceutical-healthcare complex to fleece the citizens, and useful idiots like you cheer them on thinking they are doing things for you, instead of seeing that they are doing things to you.

After his debacle pullout of Afghanistan, why would you ever think this treasonous Biden could pull off a confrontation with Russia, who while not the USSR, is not a lightweight either?

Russia found out what a tar-baby Afghanistan could truly be, but we went in there anyway.

Wake up to what is really going on & quit being the useful idiot that you are.

64 posted on 09/23/2023 6:09:09 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: AndyJackson

The economic condition described is widely reported by several sources

Your Brit Speak question is erroneous


65 posted on 09/23/2023 6:11:07 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Robert DeLong

America has not been dragged into another war. That dog won’t hunt

The war is between the Ukraine that has been invaded by the war crime perpetuating Russians


66 posted on 09/23/2023 6:13:47 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: bert

Oh yes we have, with our treasure only, for now. But there are rumblings of more to come. You all are the same. You ignore reality with your fantasies.


67 posted on 09/23/2023 6:23:21 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: bert

I don’t know how many economic idiots are spout the garbage you just spouted. The rise in oil prices domestially is one part of an overall pattern of stiffling inflation that is killing the American public. Inflation is the result of more money chasing less goods. More money is being printed by the $T’s annually. Every time the gubming increases the debt ceiling voila - more money. So choking off oil supplies to the US and our trading partners is just adding fuel to the inflation fire.

Stop being a sucker for the latest cope garbage out of DC. I cannot believe you listen to those clueless brain-dead twits. Which of our political leaders - I mean the one’s who have the power to set and execute policy - are you taking your cue from. Name names. I wanna know which crook is pouring lies into your ear so easily.


68 posted on 09/23/2023 6:38:08 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: JonPreston

“Joe Blogs”

This account is VERY STRANGE in that it seems, more than any other, to be a front account for the Administration.

One of the interesting things to note was how the account told us Russia was collapsing 17 months ago when the Ruble lost power, then this account went totally dark on the subject for 12 months*, as the Ruble reached its recent highs, and now this account is virtually repeating the same postings of 17 months ago...and always doing it as if all of the screw-ups of this account never happened.

*in fairness to this account, there was a court order part of the time that deactived the account - the one preventing the Administration from posting propaganda on social media.


69 posted on 09/23/2023 6:51:38 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: Owen

“A day will come when we beg for their oil or gas. Why should they say yes?”

I agree, particularly with Democrats in charge (something that never seems to bother the Operatives, by the way).

Anyway, they might say yes under 2 conditions: China is acting up against them and the US has an ADULT (meaning a non-Neocon) in charge.


70 posted on 09/23/2023 6:59:41 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: MarMema

“US Imports of Russian Fertilizer Hit Record $944Mln”

Funny, I haven’t seen the “Joe Blogs” account make any mention of that, nor our Operatives.

I wonder why?


71 posted on 09/23/2023 7:01:27 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: AndyJackson

Saudi Arabia lowered production to crude raise prices.

They benefit from the income and.....

Saudi’s believe that Biden and democrats are harmful to America and the world. By raising American gasoline prices, Americans blame Biden for the increase in gas prices and the resultant continuing inflation. Biden can’t do any thing about it.


72 posted on 09/23/2023 7:04:11 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Owen

The Neocon cheerleaders don’t take into account that much of our natural gas (and oil) reserves have been locked up by the people they support, the Democrats.


73 posted on 09/23/2023 7:09:07 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: Robert DeLong

You’re quite right...thuis goes back to the coup which we supported...removing a Russian/Ukrainian President. The new regime’s interest was to remove everything Russin...aka etyhnic cleansing...this has continued under “Z”....and it’s just plain wrong.


74 posted on 09/23/2023 7:09:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: bert; Robert DeLong
America has not been dragged into another war. That dog won’t hunt. The war is between the Ukraine that has been invaded by the war crime perpetuating Russians.

Are you living in a fantasy world? We have spent close to $200 billion of borrowed money in this proxy war and counting. Biden says we will be there for "as long it takes." We are providing real time intelligence to assist the Ukrainians in target selection. We have boots on the ground in Ukraine coordinating our efforts with them. We have moved troops into Poland. Biden just approved the provision of long range missiles after giving the green light for our allies to provide F-16s. We are training Ukrainian pilots in the US.

See the video at the link. No other American has been more deeply involved in the war in Ukraine than General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. At 6:45 in the morning, he was about to have a call with Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, commander of Ukraine's armed forces. "I talk to him every week, sometimes twice a week, three times a week," Milley said.

Three hours later, he took "Sunday Morning" underground, deep in the bowels of the Pentagon, into a top-secret command center where all the intelligence collected from the battlefields of Ukraine is monitored by his staff, who inform him on a day-to-day basis what's happening in the current operations. Milley said, "The fog and friction of war is always present, but our information systems are pretty good."

Maps on screens in the command center (showing unclassified information, because of "Sunday Morning"'s presence) track the painful progress of the offensive – Ukrainians cutting into Russian lines, which are defended with minefields, trenches, ditches, barbed wire, "dragon's teeth" anti-tank fortifications, and small 10- or 12-man hunter-killer teams armed with anti-tank munitions.

When asked if the U.S. shares with Ukraine what it knows about Russian troop movements, Milley replied, "Our intelligence pipes to Ukraine are quite open, for sure. And of course, the CIA and interagency, NSA, all those guys … There's pretty open pipes on intel to Ukraine."

"Are you helping Ukraine select targets?" Martin asked.

"Target selection and authority to strike is with Ukraine," Milley said. "What we do is provide them situational awareness."

75 posted on 09/23/2023 7:47:27 AM PDT by kabar
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To: bert
Saudi Arabia lowered production to crude raise prices.

And so did Russia by cutting production by 300,000 bbls a day.

Saudi’s believe that Biden and democrats are harmful to America and the world. By raising American gasoline prices, Americans blame Biden for the increase in gas prices and the resultant continuing inflation. Biden can’t do any thing about it.

Biden is keeping his campaign promise of killing the fossil fuel industry in America. He can do something about the Saudi cut in production by increasing ours. He just shut down ANWR for exploration and drilling.

Biden's answer is to drain our SPR down to its lowest level in 40 years.

76 posted on 09/23/2023 7:53:16 AM PDT by kabar
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To: bert
Saudi’s believe that Biden and democrats are harmful to America and the world. By raising American gasoline prices, Americans blame Biden for the increase in gas prices and the resultant continuing inflation. Biden can’t do any thing about it.

No. BIDEN. CANNOT. DO. ANYTHING. ABOUT. IT. - repeeat after me. ....

Fool. Biden is US foreign policy. Of course resisting what the globalist corrupt deep state wants is hard. But...

77 posted on 09/23/2023 7:59:25 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ansel12
We gave intense and extensive help to Iraq,

Be specific and provide a source.

you ignored the question of whether you were against it, or against aiding Afghanistan or Tibet, or other such wars.

Tibet? Aside from paying lip service to its lost sovereignty, we have done nothing to aid them against the Chinese. Our compromised President is reluctant to confront our competitor, China about anything. What did we do about the premature takeover of Hong Kong? What price has China paid for releasing the Wuhan virus on the world?

Our proxy war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan proved to be a Pyrrhic victory. It energized and armed the Islamic Fundamentalist movement that gave us AQ, bin Laden, unrest in the Middle East, 9/11, ISIS, and a 20 year US presence in Afghanistan costing trillions of dollars and tens of thousands of dead and wounded culminating in an ignominious defeat and an embarrassing exit that left Americans and loyal Afghans behind. We are still living with that legacy in Iraq and Syria.

Robert Gates said of Biden, "I think he has been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades." How can anyone trust the fools and knaves in charge of our involvement in Ukraine? This is the same bunch that started this war in 2014. They are leading us over a cliff.

78 posted on 09/23/2023 8:16:44 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Robert DeLong

You said:
This (war) didn’t need to happen, and it wasn’t Putin who started the events that eventually led to this war.

My answer:
No excuse in the world can give any country the right to just take an annexe others peoples lands and territories, period. Confiscating others belongings and lands is called SOCIALISM. What Putin has done is a policy exclusively based on a socialist doctrine called “LEBENSRAUM”. Can you imagine if America had decided to do the same in Iraq or Afghanistan?? Just annexing those countries and saying: “It’s American land now !”, from now on exclusively the American flag will be allowed to wave all over Iraq and Afghanistan!”. Can you imagine the outcry that would have caused in the world??

You said:
The events were started by the likes of Obama, Victoria Nuland & most likely the CIA with the color revolutions they have become experts at executing.

My answer:
The Ukrainian people decided to get their true independence back from Russia, and managed to eject the pro-russian traitor Viktor Yanukovych. The Revolution of Dignity ended the Russian puppet regime in Kiev, thanks God.

Later, Yanukovych was convicted for high treason.
He had asked Russian foreign troops to invade Ukraine! Can you imagine the madness!?
In a normal country that is considered the most extreme act of treason anyone can do. Its utter horror.

You said:
I am tired that they dragged the American public into another conflict when we are so deep in debt, especially after the BS of Covid.

My Answer:
We have NO boots on the ground in Ukraine.
However, American isolationism at ANY cost, actually feeds our archenemies lust for expansionism! This has a deep economical cost for America in the long run.
Our enemies expand and expand all over the planet and greatly benefit from it, while we retreat and retreat... That’s a losing scenario in the long run.

You said:
Supposedly Biden was going to bring the nation together, but he has divided it even further, and what he has done to encourage invaders into this nation is out-n-out treason in my book.

My Answer:
I totally agree!

You said:
Your hatred for Putin, may or may not be justified. He is not my problem, and I have seen no evidence whatsoever of his demonic designs to rule the world. I see that more so in Xi Jinping & the CCP than I do Russia or Putin. Russia is not the what the USSR was, and it never will be.

My answer:
I don’t hate Putin or anyone. I actually thought Putin was pretty good for his country until 2014.
After his invasion of Donbass and Crimea in 2014, he lost me.
Putin and his troops belong to Russia. They need to stop invading and annexing others lands. They need to go back to Moscow. I don’t like thieves. I like LAW AND ORDER.

You said:
You constantly contradict your narrative of Putin & Russia, with your posts, yet you fail to even see that. Because all of your posts state how Russia is close to imploding , troops are being killed in massive quantities, while at the same time going on about what a massive threat he is to the world. It’s hard to take anyone who contradicts their own fears, with the nonsense you post, seriously.

My answer:
I have stated facts and figures about thousands of Russians being killed for nothing, and that this war is extremely expensive for Russia. The interest rate is at 13 - 14% now in russia, that is horrible for investments and the the economy.
I never said that Russia is a nation which is ending though. It can live on for a long time even with a half-crashed economy. The deep-staters in the Kremlin have a lot of money in reserve. But for the poor russian citizens in general (Clinton would probably call them the “Deplorables”), it’s another story...
The Ruble seemed strong for a while, but it’s starting to have problems. It was artificially sustained for a while, but that trickery can’t work for ever. A Russian family got the equivalent of $110.000 for a fallen Russian soldier. That value is now down to $65.000, based on the shaky Ruble.

Also:
Ukraine has managed to successfully and courageously take back +50% of the land areas that Russia stole in the beginning of the war.

You said:
You buy into the belief that Joe is helping Ukraine because he cares about Ukraine, their sovereignty & their borders, when he has made it quite evident that he doesn’t care about the borders of the nation he leads. You can’t even recognize that glaring contradiction.

My answer:
Here is the point where you have totally misunderstood me.
Joe is a living disaster. They put him there in an act of extreme elder abuse. His family is corrupt beyond imagination. Just as Putin by the way. You think Putin is not ruling his nation based on extreme corruption mafia-style??
What I care about is America’s stand and presence in the world. We can’t retreat all over the planet while our enemies have ZERO qualm in doing exactly the opposite of what we do! They are replacing us bit by bit on the international stage and they gain economically in doing so. THAT will be very costly in $$ for America in the future.

You said:
This marvelous Democracy that you are willing to throw money, along with armaments & munitions that are meant to protect our nation at a lost cause.

My answer:
Here you TRULY don’t understand what I’m aiming for!
There are NO democracies in the world! Even America is not a democracy, it’s a Constitutional Republic!
I don’t care one bit if Ukraine is democratic or not. Who cares.
What I DO care about is stopping Russia’s military expansion, using Ukraine as another launching pad for its hysterical warmongering agenda against our European allies.
They say they want to take back Poland, the Baltic States, etc.. it never ends! Russia lives and feeds on war!

Also:
I do care about people respecting other people’s territories.
This is what right-wingers ia all about. We shoot at anyone attempting to take over our private living spaces and we say “Get off my land!”. That’s why I want Russia to bring back its troops back to Moscow. That’s all! Too much to ask for some LAW AND ORDER these days?
I’m sick and tired of this woke culture where people can just take, steal, commit arson, rape, murder... while defunding the police...!!

Russia behave like Antifa. They loot, rape, invade, annexe what isn’t their stuff, and now we don’t even want to stop that?? Its woke culture.

You said:
After his debacle pullout of Afghanistan, why would you ever think this treasonous Biden could pull off a confrontation with Russia, who while not the USSR, is not a lightweight either?

My answer: Biden or Trump is not the issue here.
Stopping Russia replacing us on the world stage is the ONLY thing that matters. Stopping Russian expansionism shouldn’t even be a political issue, it’s common sense American policy. In history there has ALWAYS been bipartisanship on this issue. Is woke culture on the verge of ending it??

You said:
Wake up to what is really going on & quit being the useful idiot that you are.

My answer:
You do know that NON-ACTION actually IS action!
Your habit of NOT condemning our enemies expansionist agenda as they replace us bit by bit, is actually pro-activity from your side. It appeases our enemy, and let him roam free against our interests. Your “inaction” is in reality pro-activity helping Russia.

Do you know this phrase :

“The only thing needed for evil to succeed, is for good men to do nothing”.

You are probably a good man. But in not complaining about territorial thieves stealing and annexing others lands.... it’s the ONLY thing those thieves want from you! That makes you their useful propaganda spinner.

Again:

“The only thing needed for evil to succeed, is for good men to do nothing”.


79 posted on 09/23/2023 8:49:11 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: BobL

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