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To: USA-FRANCE; kabar; Sacajaweau; AndyJackson; BobL; ichabod1; JonPreston; Owen; Revel; ...
First off, I do not trust a crook to be capable of winning a war, and the whole administration is full of crooks.

But beyond that, this war didn't need to happen, and it wasn't Putin who started the events that eventually led to this war.

The events were started by the likes of Obama, Victoria Nuland & most likely the CIA with the color revolutions they have become experts at executing.

I am tired that they dragged the American public into another conflict when we are so deep in debt, especially after the BS of Covid.

Supposedly Biden was going to bring the nation together, but he has divided it even further, and what he has done to encourage invaders into this nation is out-n-out treason in my book.

Your hatred for Putin, may or may not be justified. He is not my problem, and I have seen no evidence whatsoever of his demonic designs to rule the world. I see that more so in Xi Jinping & the CCP than I do Russia or Putin. Russia is not the what the USSR was, and it never will be.

You constantly contradict your narrative of Putin & Russia, with your posts, yet you fail to even see that. Because all of your posts state how Russia is close to imploding , troops are being killed in massive quantities, while at the same time going on about what a massive threat he is to the world. It's hard to take anyone who contradicts their own fears, with the nonsense you post, seriously.

In other words, you have this hair-on-fire concern, coupled with things that claim Putin & Russia are on the ropes.

You buy into the belief that Joe is helping Ukraine because he cares about Ukraine, their sovereignty & their borders, when he has made it quite evident that he doesn't care about the borders of the nation he leads. You can't even recognize that glaring contradiction.

You remind me of a person who doesn't think for themselves, because if you did you would see these glaring discrepancies, but you don't see them at all.

This marvelous Democracy that you are willing to throw money, along with armaments & munitions that are meant to protect our nation at a lost cause, and Joe should never have been allowed to lead to us into this debacle that has no pluses for you and I. Oh, it most likely would be a boon for those invested in BlackRock, but the ordinary citizens would get the bill that pays the wealthy more of our hard earned money. You are clueless as to what Eisenhower was even talking about when he warned of the military-industrial complex. Now they have opened up a new scheme with global warming, and their latest is the pharmaceutical-healthcare complex to fleece the citizens, and useful idiots like you cheer them on thinking they are doing things for you, instead of seeing that they are doing things to you.

After his debacle pullout of Afghanistan, why would you ever think this treasonous Biden could pull off a confrontation with Russia, who while not the USSR, is not a lightweight either?

Russia found out what a tar-baby Afghanistan could truly be, but we went in there anyway.

Wake up to what is really going on & quit being the useful idiot that you are.

64 posted on 09/23/2023 6:09:09 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

America has not been dragged into another war. That dog won’t hunt

The war is between the Ukraine that has been invaded by the war crime perpetuating Russians


66 posted on 09/23/2023 6:13:47 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Robert DeLong

You’re quite right...thuis goes back to the coup which we supported...removing a Russian/Ukrainian President. The new regime’s interest was to remove everything Russin...aka etyhnic cleansing...this has continued under “Z”....and it’s just plain wrong.


74 posted on 09/23/2023 7:09:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Robert DeLong

You said:
This (war) didn’t need to happen, and it wasn’t Putin who started the events that eventually led to this war.

My answer:
No excuse in the world can give any country the right to just take an annexe others peoples lands and territories, period. Confiscating others belongings and lands is called SOCIALISM. What Putin has done is a policy exclusively based on a socialist doctrine called “LEBENSRAUM”. Can you imagine if America had decided to do the same in Iraq or Afghanistan?? Just annexing those countries and saying: “It’s American land now !”, from now on exclusively the American flag will be allowed to wave all over Iraq and Afghanistan!”. Can you imagine the outcry that would have caused in the world??

You said:
The events were started by the likes of Obama, Victoria Nuland & most likely the CIA with the color revolutions they have become experts at executing.

My answer:
The Ukrainian people decided to get their true independence back from Russia, and managed to eject the pro-russian traitor Viktor Yanukovych. The Revolution of Dignity ended the Russian puppet regime in Kiev, thanks God.

Later, Yanukovych was convicted for high treason.
He had asked Russian foreign troops to invade Ukraine! Can you imagine the madness!?
In a normal country that is considered the most extreme act of treason anyone can do. Its utter horror.

You said:
I am tired that they dragged the American public into another conflict when we are so deep in debt, especially after the BS of Covid.

My Answer:
We have NO boots on the ground in Ukraine.
However, American isolationism at ANY cost, actually feeds our archenemies lust for expansionism! This has a deep economical cost for America in the long run.
Our enemies expand and expand all over the planet and greatly benefit from it, while we retreat and retreat... That’s a losing scenario in the long run.

You said:
Supposedly Biden was going to bring the nation together, but he has divided it even further, and what he has done to encourage invaders into this nation is out-n-out treason in my book.

My Answer:
I totally agree!

You said:
Your hatred for Putin, may or may not be justified. He is not my problem, and I have seen no evidence whatsoever of his demonic designs to rule the world. I see that more so in Xi Jinping & the CCP than I do Russia or Putin. Russia is not the what the USSR was, and it never will be.

My answer:
I don’t hate Putin or anyone. I actually thought Putin was pretty good for his country until 2014.
After his invasion of Donbass and Crimea in 2014, he lost me.
Putin and his troops belong to Russia. They need to stop invading and annexing others lands. They need to go back to Moscow. I don’t like thieves. I like LAW AND ORDER.

You said:
You constantly contradict your narrative of Putin & Russia, with your posts, yet you fail to even see that. Because all of your posts state how Russia is close to imploding , troops are being killed in massive quantities, while at the same time going on about what a massive threat he is to the world. It’s hard to take anyone who contradicts their own fears, with the nonsense you post, seriously.

My answer:
I have stated facts and figures about thousands of Russians being killed for nothing, and that this war is extremely expensive for Russia. The interest rate is at 13 - 14% now in russia, that is horrible for investments and the the economy.
I never said that Russia is a nation which is ending though. It can live on for a long time even with a half-crashed economy. The deep-staters in the Kremlin have a lot of money in reserve. But for the poor russian citizens in general (Clinton would probably call them the “Deplorables”), it’s another story...
The Ruble seemed strong for a while, but it’s starting to have problems. It was artificially sustained for a while, but that trickery can’t work for ever. A Russian family got the equivalent of $110.000 for a fallen Russian soldier. That value is now down to $65.000, based on the shaky Ruble.

Also:
Ukraine has managed to successfully and courageously take back +50% of the land areas that Russia stole in the beginning of the war.

You said:
You buy into the belief that Joe is helping Ukraine because he cares about Ukraine, their sovereignty & their borders, when he has made it quite evident that he doesn’t care about the borders of the nation he leads. You can’t even recognize that glaring contradiction.

My answer:
Here is the point where you have totally misunderstood me.
Joe is a living disaster. They put him there in an act of extreme elder abuse. His family is corrupt beyond imagination. Just as Putin by the way. You think Putin is not ruling his nation based on extreme corruption mafia-style??
What I care about is America’s stand and presence in the world. We can’t retreat all over the planet while our enemies have ZERO qualm in doing exactly the opposite of what we do! They are replacing us bit by bit on the international stage and they gain economically in doing so. THAT will be very costly in $$ for America in the future.

You said:
This marvelous Democracy that you are willing to throw money, along with armaments & munitions that are meant to protect our nation at a lost cause.

My answer:
Here you TRULY don’t understand what I’m aiming for!
There are NO democracies in the world! Even America is not a democracy, it’s a Constitutional Republic!
I don’t care one bit if Ukraine is democratic or not. Who cares.
What I DO care about is stopping Russia’s military expansion, using Ukraine as another launching pad for its hysterical warmongering agenda against our European allies.
They say they want to take back Poland, the Baltic States, etc.. it never ends! Russia lives and feeds on war!

Also:
I do care about people respecting other people’s territories.
This is what right-wingers ia all about. We shoot at anyone attempting to take over our private living spaces and we say “Get off my land!”. That’s why I want Russia to bring back its troops back to Moscow. That’s all! Too much to ask for some LAW AND ORDER these days?
I’m sick and tired of this woke culture where people can just take, steal, commit arson, rape, murder... while defunding the police...!!

Russia behave like Antifa. They loot, rape, invade, annexe what isn’t their stuff, and now we don’t even want to stop that?? Its woke culture.

You said:
After his debacle pullout of Afghanistan, why would you ever think this treasonous Biden could pull off a confrontation with Russia, who while not the USSR, is not a lightweight either?

My answer: Biden or Trump is not the issue here.
Stopping Russia replacing us on the world stage is the ONLY thing that matters. Stopping Russian expansionism shouldn’t even be a political issue, it’s common sense American policy. In history there has ALWAYS been bipartisanship on this issue. Is woke culture on the verge of ending it??

You said:
Wake up to what is really going on & quit being the useful idiot that you are.

My answer:
You do know that NON-ACTION actually IS action!
Your habit of NOT condemning our enemies expansionist agenda as they replace us bit by bit, is actually pro-activity from your side. It appeases our enemy, and let him roam free against our interests. Your “inaction” is in reality pro-activity helping Russia.

Do you know this phrase :

“The only thing needed for evil to succeed, is for good men to do nothing”.

You are probably a good man. But in not complaining about territorial thieves stealing and annexing others lands.... it’s the ONLY thing those thieves want from you! That makes you their useful propaganda spinner.

Again:

“The only thing needed for evil to succeed, is for good men to do nothing”.


79 posted on 09/23/2023 8:49:11 AM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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