Posted on 09/20/2023 9:21:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
Harald Haarmann (world's leading expert on scripts and languages) states that the Danube script is the oldest known writing in the world. Much older than Mesopotamian writing. The Danube culture was an egalitarian civilization which existed 8000 years ago in Eastern Europe (Romania, Bulgaria, Moldavia .....) and is indeed the cradle of civilization, not the Middle East.
Danube Script from Old Europe 5000 - 3500 BC | 2:48
Karin Haanappel | 729 subscribers | 44,969 views | November 25, 2013
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Transcript 0:00 · can these signs change our understanding 0:03 · of history here you see the so called 0:07 · Danube script harold harmon is the 0:10 · world's leading expert on ancient 0:12 · scripts and languages according to him 0:14 · these are the oldest writings in the 0:16 · world invented by an ancient 0:19 · civilization that existed in the balkans 0:21 · 8,000 years ago we have studied 0:25 · Mesopotamian writing systems Egyptian 0:28 · writing system and ancient Chinese 0:30 · writing and only after studying them 0:33 · very carefully I made a decision that 0:36 · what we have in South Eastern Europe in 0:38 · the Neolithic that was writing to this 0:40 · implies that the first high culture in 0:43 · the world originated in the Balkans and 0:46 · then that trouble began yes so 0:49 · Mesopotamia would no longer be called 0:51 · the cradle of civilization 0:53 · the ancient culture in the balkans is 0:56 · thousands of years older the tablets of 0:59 · Tartary ax were found in Romania and 1:02 · they are dated 5500 BC they are dated 1:07 · now solidly in a period when the 1:11 · Sumerians did not even know that clay 1:14 · would become Sumerians thousands of 1:17 · artifacts support his theory but the 1:21 · Mesopotamian scholars reject his idea of 1:23 · an early civilization in Europe I am a 1:26 · Mesopotamian scholar and I still AM but 1:29 · it's only I put things in perspective 1:31 · for his academic colleagues the signs of 1:34 · the Danube script are just decoration 1:39 · even though 700 different characters are 1:41 · known which approximately matches the 1:44 · number of hieroglyphs they are partly 1:48 · against it because it is too sensational 1:51 · it would simply shatter their world we 1:57 · live in a world in which people think 1:59 · they know everything new discoveries 2:02 · outside our conventional wisdom are 2:04 · often rejected before serious discussion 2:07 · I hope I can inspire them 2:17 · there's so much 2:19 · sensational knowledge about the Danube 2:21 · script and the Daniel civilization and 2:24 · that should be taken into consideration 2:26 · to create a new paradigm of civilization 2:31 · research if the academic world accepts 2:34 · his theory Harold Harmon will have found 2:38 · a new answer to a question as old as 2:41 · humanity itself.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AncientCivilizations/comments/14tsaf9/the_vinca_symbols_also_known_as_the_danube_script/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_symbols
http://www.prehistory.it/ftp/winn.htm
Amazing stuff. I never heard of those people..
” is indeed the cradle of civilization, not the Middle East.”
The earliest pottery dates to 5500 BC while agriculture developed in the fertile crescent earlier.
Cities are also found in the fertile crescent, not the Danube region. It’s pretty clear that the “secret of civilization” in the region from Bengal to Ireland and from the Sahara to the arctic, originates in the triangle between eastern Turkey, northern Syria and Iraq.
I was expecting evidence that Johan Strauss had ripped off an old song for his Blue Danube Waltz.
But... but... we’re all from Africa...?????? (s)
Civilization antedates the Middle East; the traces have been found in now-submerged areas. Even if the Vinca symbols are writing, without a bilingual it’ll probably never be read. Same goes for the writing found among the cave paintings, and perhaps also the Indus Valley script.
Never trust a man with long fingernails.
The practice of keeping at least a few longer nails has been around in archaeology at least since Arthur Evans. He had one of his “pinky” nails that he called his “personal excavator”, comes in handy for clearing the caked-on sail from recovered artifacts.
Yeah, all the tepes are there in south eastern turkey. Goebekli Tepe being the most famous. They date from right after the end of the younger dryas. or about 9000 bc
“Never trust a man with long fingernails.”
And Birkenstocks.
Me either, and I was taught that Mesopotamian cuneiform was the first written language.
The ruins of Karahan Tepe are currently the oldest, and one of the most intriguing, archaeological sites to be discovered in the last thirty years. It is home to colossal ancient constructions carved directly out of the bedrock itself. With only a fraction of this ancient hill discovered, there is still much to learn about how this sites ancient builders lived and thrived at the end of the last ice age.
Karahan Tepe: The Mysteries of The Oldest Known Settlement
YouTube video, run time of 27:26
thank you...
Interesting.
Writing earlier than known before.
“The earliest pottery dates to 5500 BC while agriculture developed in the fertile crescent earlier.”
Yes, which is why it’s a misleading argument to say the Danube writing was invented first. The early writing we have preserved from Mesopotamia is on fired clay tablets, and I believe most of them were not purposely fired, but only preserved because they were caught in a house fire or city that got burned down. So really they could have had writing much earlier, and just weren’t using a medium that could be preserved for thousands of years.
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