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What happened to the missing Titan sub? These are the most likely scenarios
Global News ^ | By Michelle Butterfield Global News Posted June 21, 2023 1:04 pm Updated June 21, 2023 2:57 pm

Posted on 06/21/2023 1:27:46 PM PDT by Red Badger

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An extensive search-and-rescue has entered its third day trying to locate a submersible that went missing during a dive to the Titanic shipwreck, and time is running out.

Rescuers have been racing against the clock because even under the best of circumstances, the vessel, OceanGate Expedition’s Titan, could run out of oxygen as soon as Thursday morning.

A glimmer of hope came Wednesday morning, when the U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) said in a statement that a Canadian aircraft had detected noises underwater.

The statement did not elaborate on what rescuers believe the noises could be. In underwater disasters, a crew unable to communicate with the surface relies on banging on their submersible’s hull to be detected by sonar. However, no official has publicly suggested that’s the case and noises underwater can come from a variety of sources.

While it’s too early to say what has happened to the Titan, experts have offered insight into some of the most likely scenarios.

A power failure

According to OceanGate’s website, the Titan has an acoustic link with its surface vessel, the Canadian icebreaker Polar Prince, which communicates using a transponder on its end and a transceiver on the receiving end. This link allows for underwater acoustic positioning, and for short text messages to be sent between the two vessels — usually basic status information.

Given that the Titan is a battery-operated submersible and has lost all contact with its surface vessel, it may have lost power. While these types of vessels typically have an emergency backup power source, it’s unclear if the Titan had an independent battery.

OceanGate warned of potential ‘catastrophic’ problems with tourist submersible: NYT report A power failure is considered the best-case scenario for the 20,000-pound Titan. Experts have said that if the submersible’s inbuilt safety system is operating properly, there’s a chance the vessel could drop additional weight and return to the water’s surface.

Some have said there’s a chance that the Titan has surfaced and is bobbing on top of the water already, and it’s just a matter of time until it’s spotted by rescue crews.

The bad news is if the passengers are stranded on top of the water, they remain out of luck until someone finds them; as CBS News journalist David Pogue told the BBC, passengers are sealed inside the vessel’s main capsule with no way of getting out.

A view inside the Titan, with crew members from a previous expedition.View image in full screen A view inside the Titan, with crew members from a previous expedition. OceanGate Expeditions. He recalled from his close-up of the Titan last November that the passengers are sealed into the sub before they begin their expedition. Crews apply more than a dozen heavy bolts from the outside, which must be removed by an external crew in order to exit.

A tangled situation

There is also a chance that the Titan is snagged on something in the water — perhaps a piece of the shipwreck or a large fishing net.

The wreckage of the Titanic, which came to rest approximately four kilometres below the ocean’s surface, is a hazardous area with debris everywhere.

“There are parts of it all over the place. It’s dangerous,” said Frank Owen, a retired Royal Australian Navy official and submarine escape and rescue project director, in an interview with The Guardian.

Crews racing to find missing Titanic tourist submersible: ‘It would be a miracle if they’re recovered alive’ Because the vessel lost contact at one hour and 45 minutes into its trip, the crew may have been close to or at the bottom of the ocean, Owen said.

A failure in pressure

The worst-case scenario is that there has been a leak or damage to the Titan’s pressure hull.

Ian Ballantyne, the editor of International Warships Fleet Review magazine, told the U.K.’s Express publication that “if they suffered a hull rupture the craft and its occupants will likely have swiftly met their end.

“If the craft has retained hull integrity along with air plus power to maintain life support systems, there may be a chance … though submarine rescue beyond the continental shelf is unheard of even in the military,” he continued.

The Titan travels rough waters to get to a previous dive location. OceanGate Expeditions “If it has gone down to the seabed and can’t get back up under its own power, options are very limited,” said Alistair Greig, a professor of marine engineering at University College London.

“While the submersible might still be intact, if it is beyond the continental shelf, there are very few vessels that can get that deep, and certainly not divers.”

Pogue said the vessel’s resurfacing capabilities would be irrelevant if the sub became trapped or sprang a leak.

“There’s no backup, there’s no escape pod,” he said. “It’s get to the surface or die.”

A complex operation, regardless

In any scenario, the operation to locate and retrieve the Titan is complicated and faces a large set of factors that make it a difficult operation.

Because crews do not know if the vessel has surfaced, they must scour both the ocean’s surface and depths, which are both massive in terms of the search area.

Missing Titanic sub: ‘Improvised’ nature of vessel highlighted in 2022 CBS News segment

Chris Parry, a retired rear admiral with the British Royal Navy, told Sky News a seabed rescue was “a very difficult operation.”

“The actual nature of the seabed is very undulating. Titanic herself lies in a trench. There’s lots of debris around. So trying to differentiate with sonar in particular and trying to target the area you want to search in with another submersible is going to be very difficult indeed.”

The ocean’s temperature, weather and sea conditions and visibility above and below the water are also factors that can impact the search.

Aaron Newman, who has been a passenger on the Titan, told NBC’s Today that if the submersible is below a couple hundred metres and without power, the passengers are in complete darkness and it’s cold.

This Global News graphic shows the distance between St. John’s, N.L., and the last point of contact with Titan, an OceanGate Expeditions that went missing Sunday. Global News graphic “It was cold when we were at the bottom,” he said. “You had layered up. You had wool hats on and were doing everything to stay warm at the bottom.”

David Gallo, a senior advisor for strategic initiatives at RMS Titanic, told CNN that dwindling oxygen levels and fighting the cold were the primary concerns for the passengers’ safety at this point.

“The water is very deep — two miles-plus,” Gallo said. “It’s like a visit to another planet. It’s not what people think it is. It is a sunless, cold environment and high pressure.”

In addition to an international array of ships and planes, an underwater robot has begun searching in the vicinity of the Titanic and there is a push to get salvage equipment to the scene in case the sub is found.

Lost aboard the vessel is pilot Stockton Rush, the CEO of the company leading the expedition. His passengers are a British adventurer, two members of a Pakistani business family and a Titanic expert.


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To: Jim Noble
That’s another thing about this that sounds absurd. What are the chances that a fist or hammer banging on carbon fiber at 12000 feet down would generate sound waves audible to a flying aircraft? It’s ridiculous.

Yes, it is.

21 posted on 06/21/2023 1:54:49 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Red Badger

22 posted on 06/21/2023 1:54:56 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: 1Old Pro

this is called Manufactured Drama


23 posted on 06/21/2023 1:55:27 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Genocide is here. Leftist extremists are spearheading the Genocide against conservatives. )
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To: Red Badger

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24 posted on 06/21/2023 1:56:52 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Red Badger
Given that the Titan is a battery-operated submersible and has lost all contact with its surface vessel, it may have lost power.

Never send an EV to do a mama’s job. Those passengers are now gelatinous goo with bits of bone tumbling out of the crushed shell of the poorly constructed submersible now. Food for Bathypelegaic bottom feeders.

25 posted on 06/21/2023 1:56:56 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: Red Badger

So, they can die from lack of oxygen if they’re on the surface? It would seem so, if they’re sealed in and havve no way to unbolt the door.


26 posted on 06/21/2023 1:57:20 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: Jim Noble

google passive sonabouy.


27 posted on 06/21/2023 1:57:22 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Red Badger
God always forgives. Man sometimes forgives. Mother Nature never forgives.


28 posted on 06/21/2023 1:57:35 PM PDT by fidelis (❤️ The Month of June Belongs to the Sacred Heart of Jesus ❤️)
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To: 1Old Pro

The planes drop sonar buoys, into the water, and the information, from the buoys, is sent back to the aircraft.


29 posted on 06/21/2023 1:57:57 PM PDT by Ez2BRepub (don't know)
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To: Jim Noble

That’s another thing about this that sounds absurd.

What are the chances that a fist or hammer banging on carbon fiber at 12000 feet down would generate sound waves audible to a flying aircraft?

It’s ridiculous.


Most searches by air use sonar buoys. Planes airdrop them.


30 posted on 06/21/2023 2:02:06 PM PDT by krogers58
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To: Jim Noble

The airplanes drop sonar buoys which float. They pick up acoustic noise and forward to plane via radio. They started that in WWII.


31 posted on 06/21/2023 2:03:08 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Red Badger

Should I play the 70s song ‘Timothy’ yet ?


32 posted on 06/21/2023 2:04:39 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: George from New England
Should I play the 70s song ‘Timothy’ yet ?

Well if there's anything to "eat", they're going to be like pancakes.

33 posted on 06/21/2023 2:07:19 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Red Badger

This is what first came to mind when I heard about the Titan
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byford_Dolphin


34 posted on 06/21/2023 2:07:23 PM PDT by ZinGirl (Now a grandma ....can't afford a tagline :))
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To: PGR88

lol


35 posted on 06/21/2023 2:08:02 PM PDT by EliRoom8
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To: Jim Noble

The aircraft dropped sonar buoys into the water and those buoys would transmit any noise back to the plane.


36 posted on 06/21/2023 2:08:39 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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To: Jim Noble

“What are the chances that a fist or hammer banging on carbon fiber at 12000 feet down would generate sound waves audible to a flying aircraft?”

Each end and the interior is metal.

The planes are monitoring radio waves from the sonar buoys they dropped.


37 posted on 06/21/2023 2:11:39 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Red Badger

“The bad news is if the passengers are stranded on top of the water, they remain out of luck until someone finds them...”

Wonder if rescue crews remember to bring the right size nut driver!


38 posted on 06/21/2023 2:11:58 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Red Badger

They’re dead, Jim


39 posted on 06/21/2023 2:12:18 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Red Badger

Does anyone have the image from Star Trek?
They’re dead Jim.


40 posted on 06/21/2023 2:13:29 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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