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As the Pandemic Winds Down, Anti-Vaccine Activists Are Building a Legal Network
NPR ^ | May 4, 2023 | Lisa Hagen

Posted on 05/07/2023 8:30:55 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Steve Kirsch is a tech entrepreneur who made hundreds of millions of dollars after founding an early search engine and helping invent the optical computer mouse.

Recently, he stood before a gathering of more than 250 lawyers in Atlanta while wearing a custom black T-shirt designed like a dictionary entry for the phrase "misinformation superspreader."

"Our definition is it's someone who's basically pointing out the truth and it just happens to disagree with the mainstream narrative we're known as misinformation spreaders, because what they're trying to do is they're trying to control the narrative," Kirsch told NPR.

By "they," Kirsch means a network of pharmaceutical companies, governments, doctors and journalists that he argues are covering up a pandemic-driven plot to poison the world for profit.

How Damar Hamlin's collapse fueled anti-vaccine conspiracy theories The scientific consensus shows COVID vaccines are safe and significantly reduce the chances of death or serious illness. While many Americans may share a distrust of pharmaceutical companies and healthcare systems, there is no evidence of the kind of conspiracy alleged in these circles.

In recent years, Kirsch has become an increasingly vocal and generous funder of the anti-vaccine movement. He helped organize and fund the conference to map out strategies for anti-vaccine and COVID-19-focused litigation as the pandemic winds down.

Their proposed targets include hospitals, school systems, medical licensing boards and, the holy grail, pharmaceutical companies that make vaccines.

"My goal is to expose every single one of these a**holes," Kirsch told the audience, to uproarious applause.

The lawyers met as the anti-vaccine movement is at a crossroads. The COVID-19 pandemic brought in new energy and supporters but is fading from public life. On May 11, the federal government's public health emergency will expire. To keep the cause alive, some in the movement are trying to build up a legal arm.

The legal conference drew a mix of people who've advocated against vaccines for years before the pandemic, and those, like Kirsch, who are more recent converts. He said he actually got two Moderna shots when COVID vaccines became available.

Kirsch's path to the conference started with an effort to find treatments for COVID.

From funding research to organizing lawyers

"When the pandemic hit, I put in a million dollars of my own money and raised another $5 million dollars. We started the COVID 19 Early Treatment Fund and we started funding early treatments," said Kirsch.

The goal was to run trials on existing treatments that might help combat the virus. Reporting by MIT's Technology Review found the project had brought together highly respected biologists and drug researchers who believed in the work. But when some of the research seemed to run into dead ends, Kirsch reportedly began to clash with the scientists he was funding.

"If the data is is is bad and doesn't make sense and the study was badly done, then I have a right to reject it," said Kirsch. "And so the point is that if a study is well done, you'll see that I will like the study."

Kirsch has a tendency to offer large sums of money to anyone willing to debate his assertions.

"But they won't do that. They won't get into any discussion with me because they don't want to answer a single question," Kirsch said.

Jeffrey Morris has tried to engage with Kirsch for years. In his spare time, the professor of biostatistics at the University of Pennsylvania has gone line by line through some of Kirsch's claims, providing answers, context and explanations. They once had a long conversation over Zoom.

"And it was an interesting discussion, you know, because he admitted that he was not a scientist and didn't think like one. And so I was trying to connect with him and help him understand the leaps he was making in his arguments to get him to think more carefully. Because I could tell he was someone with a lot of energy and passion on the issue," said Morris, who has watched Kirsch pull millions of views on some of his COVID vaccine content.

Just 12 People Are Behind Most Vaccine Hoaxes On Social Media, Research Shows "They're presuming that they have the entitlement that what they're saying can be presumed to be true without them demonstrating rigorously that it's true, and that it is the responsibility of society and the scientific community to prove them wrong. And if they fail to prove them wrong, or if they don't show up, then they're really offended. And then to them, that just proves their guilt. It proves the cover up," he said.

As government cover ups became a regular talking point for Kirsch, the researchers abandoned his early treatment project. Two years and $2 million later, he's hoping to organize a sustained legal insurgency against public health agencies, drug manufacturers, hospitals and schools.

A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a mouse click SHOTS - HEALTH NEWS A doctor spread COVID misinformation and renewed her license with a mouse click Attorney Pete Serano traveled from Washington State, where he represents three doctors accused of spreading false statements about COVID-19 and said finding a supportive community of lawyers and experts he can call for help is "monumental."

"You know, it really felt like it was me against the world, even though there were probably maybe half a dozen to a dozen lawyers in Washington fighting. It still feels - it's extremely lonely. It's extremely difficult," said Serano.

Conference organizers asked reporters not to record entire presentations. But one thing Serano and other attendees heard again and again from speakers: In this room, you're among heroes.

"There are people who are tremendously intellectually talented and gifted in so many ways who are using those talents to fight for your rights, to fight for my rights," said Serano.

Creating a new body of law

The fights include everything from suing educators who enforced mask mandates, to demanding vaccination status be made a protected class, like race or sexual orientation. Thousands of lawsuits pushing back against public health measures have been filed since the pandemic.

The goal of this conference is to bring lawyers behind these suits together, study all that legal spaghetti on the wall and analyze what has and hasn't worked. They mean to probe for weak points in the law, build a network of experts and plaintiffs, and, they hope, inspire new laws.

Conference organizers like attorney Warner Mendenhall want to ensure a steady supply of lawyers who see opportunity, whether ideologically aligned with the anti-vaccine movement or not.

"I hate to say this but greed is good in this instance," said Mendenhall on a webinar promoting the event. "So if lawyers can see that they can get rich, and we're trying to prove that you can - we haven't yet, but we will - it'll bring lawyers in simply for the money."

Fears about vaccines are not new. The current legal structure around vaccines is the result of a wave of lawsuits in the 1970s and 80s. It tries to balance individual freedom with public health needs, according to Anjali Deshmukh, a pediatrician and professor of administrative law at Georgia State University.

"It's not only about protecting us, but it's about protecting our community. And that's a different calculus, where it's now within the government's interests to make sure that these diseases are not spreading," Deshmukh said.

What a bottle of ivermectin reveals about the shadowy world of COVID telemedicine But the law is not fixed, she added, and well-funded, well-organized groups can be a powerful force.

"And I think like we saw with Roe v Wade, you had a case that was passed 50 years ago and then had various chips away at it until the ground crumbled," said Deshmukh.

The civil rights movement, organized labor and women's rights advocates have also relied on a potent mix of court battles and ground campaigns to sway public sentiment.

"The court of public opinion is more important than I think we give credit to in both law and medicine. We can have all the science in the world, we can have laws that make sense, but laws change. Science is not always convincing when you're coming from a place of fear," said Deshmukh.

Cases don't even have to succeed in court to have an impact, Deshmukh said. Influencers and headlines can frame settlements, technical legal outcomes or compelling, emotional testimony as victories for one side or another. She said these lawsuits also come at a time when the Supreme Court is weakening the powers of many regulators.

With the COVID national emergency order set to end, keeping COVID-related grievances alive in the courts may also help sustain the larger movement against vaccines.

Serano, the lawyer from Washington State, says the kinds of cases that brought him here may become the bulk of his work for years.

"I plan on being that 80 year old guy talking about what it was like in the 2020s and COVID 19 and telling some young whippersnapper lawyer about how we did it back when," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: antivax; covid19; stevekirsch; trumpvaccines; warpspeed

1 posted on 05/07/2023 8:30:55 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Until our republic is restored, good luck with that.

Note to the families of the injured and dead: The law is now whatever Deep State says it is. As long as that’s the case, unless Deep State buys you off and you’re happy to accept taxpayer funded blood money, you’re chances of legal redress are slim to none.

You want justice?

Help secure our elections.

If our republic is restored, you’ll have a hope of legal redress.

And not just monetary.


2 posted on 05/07/2023 8:34:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: nickcarraway

Winds down? I coulda sworn WHO said it was over. 🔬🤔😲🚫😷💉🐎💩


3 posted on 05/07/2023 8:38:22 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉)
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To: nickcarraway

National Propaganda Radio has nothing to say I care to hear. I spend enough time searching for factual news without being aggravated by more lies and misdirected nonsense.


4 posted on 05/07/2023 8:41:41 AM PDT by Spok (“Winston, how many fingers am I holding up?”)
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To: Spok

Why do you pay for it?


5 posted on 05/07/2023 8:42:31 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Spok

I have questions about the vaccine and I’m an “antiVaxer”? Shove it, NPR.


6 posted on 05/07/2023 8:44:58 AM PDT by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness )
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To: nickcarraway
Steve Kirsch responded to this almost right away.

NPR's article about the COVID Litigation Conference: How accurate was it? Not very.

They paint me as a "conspiracy" theorist and not a scientist among other things. It was a good learning experience for me to see just how accurately NPR reports the facts. I was not impressed. - Steve Kirsch
7 posted on 05/07/2023 8:55:39 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: Spok

Car stereo gets turned off at the top of the hour until at least :08. Thankfully, NPR gives you a second or two to get to the on/off button by saying “Live from Washington, I’m Lakshmi Singh”. No. You’re not live. You’re not in Washington. You’re name is something else. Everything is a lie, and you...are...off!


8 posted on 05/07/2023 9:00:25 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: nickcarraway

The scientific consensus shows COVID vaccines are safe and significantly reduce the chances of death or serious illness.

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The insurance data and graveyards tell the truth that cant be spun away.


9 posted on 05/07/2023 9:19:22 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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The insurance data and graveyards tell the truth that cant be spun away.

How come we don't see the data?

10 posted on 05/07/2023 9:20:04 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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How come we don't see the data?

You'll see what we want you to see. Now shut up and pay your taxes.

11 posted on 05/07/2023 9:25:10 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: nickcarraway

Typical NPR leftist slant.

If you disagree with them you are wrong because they have a monopoly on the Truth.


12 posted on 05/07/2023 9:28:46 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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Just for sh*ts and giggles, I decided to go to the NPR and do a search of articles in which VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) is mentioned.

There are a grand total of five since 2020.

https://www.npr.org/search?query=VAERS&page=1

Of course, not one article explored the idea of why the vaxseems resulted in an uptick of so many reports or, in other words, why so many people felt the need to file a report.

The one article argued that a lot of older people who got the vaxseem were sort of dying anyway and people were too quick to attribute the fact that they died after getting the vaxseem to the vaxseem, but that doesn’t really explain the perception (misperception in NPR’s mind) that people had that the vaccine they were so, so glad was here to save them and their parents and grandparents from a deadly disease actually caused their death instead.

And how many of these people who formed the records in VAERS in the early days were really at death’s door anyway?

I remember those days. I remember waiting for Thai takeout and one of the regulars coming in, still in scrubs, after his shift at the hospital in town telling us that under no circumstances should be we get the vaxx after what he had seen since the rollout.


13 posted on 05/07/2023 9:28:59 AM PDT by CheshireTheCat ("Forgetting pain is convenient.Remembering it agonizing.But recovering truth is worth the suffering")
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How come we don't see the data? /\ Good question. Why don't you covidvaxcultists ? Is it cuz you refuse to look ? Is it cuz you are eugenincis ? Is it cuz you profit $$$ off it ? Or maybe cuz.... 1000-F-281580350-qk-EX0gsszr-Do-MJEls-CZMAu-Cia-FSyzq-Sg .
14 posted on 05/07/2023 9:46:47 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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Many doctors, nurses, medical administrators and Big Pharmacy people are going to face military tribunals in the near future and they are going to go bye bye.


15 posted on 05/07/2023 9:50:22 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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https://rumble.com/user/ForestsforOregon

We are starting a legal fund to punish the punishers.


16 posted on 05/07/2023 11:07:37 AM PDT by bray (Dr Fauxi killed millions)
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