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Astronomers shocked to 'discover the impossible' from James Webb Space Telescope images: 'I nearly spit out my coffee'
The Blaze ^ | February 23, 2023 | Carlos Garcia

Posted on 02/25/2023 11:25:03 AM PST by Twotone

Scientists say that images from the James Webb Space Telescope may change how they understand the origins of the universe after they discovered "the impossible."

The findings were published in the journal "Nature" on Wednesday.

Astronomers expected to find "tiny, young, baby galaxies" from the cosmic history documented in the images, but they found something else entirely.

The study's lead author, Ivo Labbé, explained how shocked he was when he realized what the images meant.

"Little did I know that among the pictures is a small red dot that will shake up our understanding of how the first galaxies formed after the Big Bang," Labbé said.

"I run the analysis software on the little pinprick and it spits out two numbers: distance 13.1 billion light years, mass 100 billion stars, and I nearly spit out my coffee," he continued. "We just discovered the impossible. Impossibly early, impossibly massive galaxies."

In addition to the "pinprick" galaxy, the next day they discovered five other possible galaxies exhibiting the same unexpected qualities.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; creation; earlygalaxies; galaxies; haltonarp; images; jwst; physics; science; spacetelescope; stringtheory; webb; webbtelescope
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1 posted on 02/25/2023 11:25:03 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Twotone

lol.


2 posted on 02/25/2023 11:26:44 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Twotone

Is the analysis software the Labbé used as good as the climate change analysis software?


3 posted on 02/25/2023 11:28:13 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: Twotone

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the Earth.

How is it a scientist ever use the work impossible in regard to their theories or hypothesis, literally such a word, in regards to those, is the antithesis of science.


4 posted on 02/25/2023 11:30:05 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Twotone

This website is always screwed up.


5 posted on 02/25/2023 11:31:49 AM PST by chopperk ( )
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To: Twotone

Scientists are constantly shocked by new discoveries that upset the old thinking.

Except when it comes to Climate Change, where the “science” never changes. It’s almost like CC is a religion rather than a
science.


6 posted on 02/25/2023 11:34:21 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself. 111 is the key.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Climate change science is settled. Better equipment or data does not matter at this point.

I think science still has an open mind on space exploration however.


7 posted on 02/25/2023 11:34:30 AM PST by Zack Attack
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To: Skwor

I’m going to a star party tonight. I’m gonna ask some of my friends what they think of this. It sure is interesting.


8 posted on 02/25/2023 11:34:53 AM PST by telescope115 (My feet are on the ground, and my head is in the stars.)
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To: telescope115

I am envious. I live near DC, takes hours for me to get to a true dark skies area :(

Nearly everyone we live by and know has never seen the Milky Way!


9 posted on 02/25/2023 11:37:40 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

Exactly! They’re so wrapped around the axle for a Naturalistic explanation, there’s noting that will change their minds.


10 posted on 02/25/2023 11:37:48 AM PST by JJBookman (Democrats = Party of Marxism )
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To: Twotone
Went to and read the link…

Written more as a human interest story instead of a science discovery/observation report that might have had some real explanation of what was found by Webb.

11 posted on 02/25/2023 11:38:45 AM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Zack Attack

“The science is settled,” is the most dangerous and anti-scientific statement ever uttered.

Obama and his ilk started using it during his residency concerning “climate change.” Is been a staple to them ever since.


12 posted on 02/25/2023 11:40:07 AM PST by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Analysis is rarely limited by arithmetic or mathematical skill, but by the validity of one’s models. Up until around 1916, there was a persistent, but subtle anomaly in the precession of the perihelion of the orbit of Mercury, that could not be explained by Newton’s theory of gravity. When Einstein applied his new general theory of relativity (which is really a theory about gravity) he came up with precisely the correct - in the sense that it agreed with observations - result. So far General Relativity has taken everything that’s been thrown at it, and it comes up standing.

Global warming theory cannot “predict” the past, in the sense that when the equation are run backwards in time it diverges from historical measurements, and its very modest attempts at predicting the last decade of so have been utter failures. Ptolemaic astronomy has more empirical validation than global warming theory.

Keep an open mind.


13 posted on 02/25/2023 11:41:30 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit.)
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To: Nathan _in_Arkansas

Yes!
Science is never settled if it is. It’s not science but dogma!


14 posted on 02/25/2023 11:43:21 AM PST by Reily
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To: Twotone

All this means is that our theories of early galaxy formation may be wrong. They were expecting to see swarms of smaller galaxies that merge and evolve into bigger ones over time, but this makes it look like they began fully formed.


15 posted on 02/25/2023 11:45:56 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Deaf Smith

True, but I didn’t feel like tracking down the original Nature article this one references.


16 posted on 02/25/2023 11:46:50 AM PST by Twotone
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Exactly.

One of my biggest beefs with climate modeling is the ability to accurately measure CO2, literally our best measurements are wildly outside any margin of error.

The tolerances we work with do not allow measuring man’s output of CO2 into the environment with any accuracy what so ever! It’s like trying to measure the impact of a thimble of hot water poured into an olympic swimming pool with a garden thermometer.


17 posted on 02/25/2023 11:48:31 AM PST by Skwor
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To: Skwor

Recently I came across this video where a fellow describes “The Case Against Reality”, the title of his book, came up with the idea that natural selection would not equip us with the ability to accurately perceive reality. That fitness is over truth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reYdQYZ9Rj4

That the thing we see with our eyes is likely detached from reality.

“But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.” – 2 Corinthians 4:3-4

Thing is, his very thesis at he first sets it out is in harmony with what Paul wrote, but only from the perspective of someone still in this world system yet someone who has very advanced intellectual proficiencies.

But instead of not seeing reality / truth because it is evolutionarily unnecessary, Paul and the rest would say they do not see truth because an agency, spiritual forces they have no defense against, have snatched the seed that gets sown along their way from them


18 posted on 02/25/2023 11:50:08 AM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Zack Attack

“Climate change science is settled.”

C’mon, man! We can say the same for evolution as a causal process for the origin of life and the differentiated development of the various life forms.
Problem is that ‘settled’ in this sense means ‘totally whacko’, jack-o. Earth’s flimsy atmosphere (forget a nearly negligible trace gas) contributes nothing to climate, but is responsible for converting climate into weather and puffing it around the planet.
As for evolution, it stands on the single, tenuous sliver of fact labeled ‘survival of the fittest’. For a resounding belly-laugh, go look at what G.K. Chesterton had to say about that.


19 posted on 02/25/2023 11:51:48 AM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Twotone; Gamecock; SaveFerris; PROCON

a small red dot

Like on a cashmere sweater? The whole universe could be in a sale bin!


20 posted on 02/25/2023 11:51:50 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just postill clickbait!)
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