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The woman was leaving, the cop stopped her from leaving, and then arrests her for failing to ID for a trespass violation that doesn't exist in law.

Best comment is when the citizen tells the cop that he's going to be in trouble and he laughs it off. Now it looks like he'll be out of job.

1 posted on 01/23/2023 8:31:26 AM PST by MeganC
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To: MeganC

The Facebook video referenced shows the cop punching this woman in the face. Link here:

https://www.facebook.com/mario.robinson.148/videos/691942075763580/


2 posted on 01/23/2023 8:33:09 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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3 posted on 01/23/2023 8:37:17 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: MeganC

“Placed on leave, pending internal investigation”. Translation “Stay low for a while until the news dies down”.


4 posted on 01/23/2023 8:38:14 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: MeganC

The cops were called by management to the restaurant and this screechy woman escalated the incident by refusing to comply with a lawful request.


6 posted on 01/23/2023 8:39:18 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: MeganC

7 posted on 01/23/2023 8:39:23 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: MeganC

“Somebody get me a cheeseburger!”


8 posted on 01/23/2023 8:40:40 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MeganC

9 posted on 01/23/2023 8:43:59 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: MeganC

I get the feeling that this woman is going to suddenly be very wealthy in the near future................


13 posted on 01/23/2023 8:47:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: MeganC

I was a civil dispute. When she decided to leave the Cops job was over and it should not have gone any further past that.


19 posted on 01/23/2023 8:53:21 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: MeganC

There’s plenty of YT videos demonstrating cops having below a basic understanding of the law regarding basic rights. Just because “you got a call” isn’t grounds for demanding an ID without “reasonable articulable suspicion” of an actual crime. A phone call is nothing but hearsay. Somehow many cops seem to believe that because they got a call the investigation requires ID’s by law. It doesn’t. You’re required to ID only once an offense has been identified.

There’s also a lot of misunderstandings respective to trespassing. You’re only trespassing if you’ve been asked to leave and refuse to or you return afterward. Being asked to leave, then leaving, is not an offense where you’re required to provide ID so they can “write up the trespass” - as you’ve not trespassed at that point. Being asked to leave somewhere isn’t a crime.

I’m no lawyer but I’ve seen enough videos, over and over, on these topics where police departments end up getting sued and lose, costing the taxpayer money. The other absurdity is that they should just assume cameras are everywhere, because they are!

This lady, once they decided to arrest her, irrespective if it was a lawful arrest, should not have resisted. That said, multiple punches to the face is excessive imo. The posted video also doesn’t show if she was told to leave and refused to do so, which would be trespassing and they’d have a right to ID her.


20 posted on 01/23/2023 8:53:43 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: MeganC

Ohio law:

“Failure to Deliver/Substitutions

Under the Consumer Sales Practices Act, a seller may not advertise prompt delivery of goods or services unless the seller actually takes reasonable steps to ensure prompt delivery (Ohio Administrative Code 109:4-3-09).
Failure to Deliver

It is deceptive for a seller to accept money from a consumer and allow eight weeks to pass without:

Delivering the goods or services;
Providing a full refund;
Telling the consumer about the delay and offering to send a refund within two weeks, if the consumer requests it; or
Substituting similar goods or services of equal or greater value, if the consumer agrees.

Substitutions of “Equal or Greater Value”

To be considered “equal or greater value,” the substituted goods or services must be substantially similar to the original goods or services. They also must be made for the same purposes and cannot have a lower normal price than the original goods or services.

Sellers may not provide similar goods of equal or greater value when they had no intention to ship, deliver, or install the original goods ordered.”

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Business/Services-for-Business/Business-Guide/Failure-to-Deliver-Substitutions

she had every legal right to stay and ask for the product to be made right. She was legally right, the business was not. Therefore the officers were also not.


33 posted on 01/23/2023 9:04:46 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: MeganC
A person has a 5th amendment right to not incriminate themselves, which has popularly been interpreted as "the right to remain silent." This right is inherent in everybody at all times and doesn't begin only when a police officer "reads you your rights."

Exercising one's Constitutional rights is not, in and of itself, probable cause for arrest.

-PJ

52 posted on 01/23/2023 9:22:56 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: MeganC

I thought it was racist to ask a black for ID. That’s what they tell us re voting.


97 posted on 01/23/2023 10:10:02 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: MeganC

Meet a newly minted multi-millionaire.


101 posted on 01/23/2023 10:37:05 AM PST by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: MeganC

I would not bet the farm on it. “It” being the Officer is out of a job. If he gets fired, the next town over will pick him up.


103 posted on 01/23/2023 10:41:08 AM PST by sport
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To: MeganC

“The woman was leaving, the cop stopped her from leaving, and then arrests her for failing to ID for a trespass violation that doesn’t exist in law. “

Yet the article says they were called about a report of disorderly conduct, not trespassing. That’s enough reasonable suspicion to detain someone, and if they can detain them, they can demand ID.


104 posted on 01/23/2023 10:42:41 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: MeganC

I could be wrong but I think that woman has won the lottery.


129 posted on 01/23/2023 1:02:50 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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