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To: MeganC

The cops were called by management to the restaurant and this screechy woman escalated the incident by refusing to comply with a lawful request.


6 posted on 01/23/2023 8:39:18 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

The woman was leaving. The cop prevented her from leaving. She had committed no crime and he did not need to get her ID for some fake reason.

He’ll soon be out of a job and she’ll soon be suing the cops, the city, and the McDonald’s.


10 posted on 01/23/2023 8:44:17 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: JonPreston

Right.

Should you get ‘beaten’ for not showing an ID? Of course not.

Do the police have the right to ID you? I’m not lawyer but I feel like they do.

So if you refuse to comply to showing an ID, should be have the right to detain you?
Now we are getting into some taller legal weeds, but still, I think most people’s common sense would say that they do. For public safety reasons, police often ID people who are involved in any kind of incident, not just because they have to report on it, but also because they could have wants and warrants.

So, did she resist arrest/detainment?
No one has the right to resist, do they?
This is the part that should be obvious.


14 posted on 01/23/2023 8:48:59 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: JonPreston

“Comply with a lawful request”

Think about what you just wrote.

If it’s a request, you don’t have to comply. If you do it’s called a demand or order.


24 posted on 01/23/2023 8:56:27 AM PST by grumpygresh (Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification. )
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To: JonPreston
refusing to comply with a lawful request.

What "lawful request"? She was ask to leave, and she was leaving (only to be prevented from exiting the property by the cop).

There was no reasonable cause - and no law broken. You aren't tresspassing if you leave when asked to.

29 posted on 01/23/2023 9:00:13 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: JonPreston
The cops were called by management to the restaurant

The lady articulated that she was denied the lawful service that she requested by the restaurant.

The cop should have gone into the restaurant and arrested the manager for refusing to do his job as a food service provider. The woman's complaint should have been enough to instigate the arrest.

34 posted on 01/23/2023 9:06:19 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman! )
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To: JonPreston
The cops were called by management to the restaurant and this screechy woman escalated the incident by refusing to comply with a lawful request.

And yet it was not a lawful request. There are specific circumstances that must be present for LEO to be able to legally require ID. Unfortunately, many LEOs ignore this reality.

71 posted on 01/23/2023 9:36:36 AM PST by ibheath
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Yep, I have zero problems with cops punching her or anyone if they are resisting arrest. The Zero Cops people don’t want tasers, choke holds, punching or rubber bullets used. No tear gas for rioters either. What they leave is lead, and death. Now who is responsible for that?

I know, hire more social workers to respond to crime. That is EXACTLY what these lunatics want.


124 posted on 01/23/2023 12:32:27 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("People who didn't take take the Jab have -0- regrets, those who did may be SADS.)
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