FLASHBACK: Rush Limbaugh makes the case for Article V convention of states (Part 1)

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[conservative98]

Rush Limbaugh spent his life advocating for liberty and defending the rights of American citizens. He encouraged his millions of followers to get involved in politics and make their voices heard at the local, state, and national levels.

One of the ways he urged his listeners to get involved was by joining the Article V movement. But those who oppose the Founders' solution to federal overreach have launched a disinformation campaign attacking both Rush and Convention of States Action President Mark Meckler.

In a recent post on social media, Montana State Senator Theresa Manzella claims that Mark lied about Rush's support for our movement.

There's just one problem: we have evidence that proves otherwise. In a recently unearthed conversation with a caller, Rush encouraged the caller to purchase and read Mark Levin's Liberty Amendments, a bestselling book that called for an Article V Convention of States.

"Read it... it's fascinating," Rush said. "Everybody still asks me, 'Rush, what can I do, besides vote?' Everybody wants to do something. Well, look, the standard, ordinary give-and-take and back-and-forth of politics isn't going to work anymore... The Constitution is going to have to be put back together."

"The Founders understood what we are going through today was very possible, and they had a prescription to fix it," he continued. "There are remedies for this. The remedy is not the Republican party. The American people are going to have to fix this. And that's Levin's book. It's a wonderful book."

[conservative98]

Words from Rush. Now more than ever … Article V, Convention of States

[conservative98]

Rush Limbaugh makes the case for Article V convention of states (Part 1)
https://youtu.be/8y_nziyu6No

FLASHBACK: Rush Limbaugh makes the case for Article V convention of states (Part 2)
https://youtu.be/GyAFdzJSdBA

[conservative98]

from this blog post: REVEALED: Rush Limbaugh advocated for Article V Convention to Stop Runaway Government...
https://conventionofstates.com/news/revealed-rush-limbaugh-advocated-for-article-v-convention-to-stop-runaway-government

[Publius]

Another Article V thread.

[thinden]

Mark Elias & Perkins Coie are licking their lips for this to get here

[dpetty121263]

Terrible idea as it would be hi-jacked sure as day, and an army of Leftist Lawyers would legalize their way into re-writing the US Constitution.

[TakebackGOP]

I read Mark’s book 8 years ago, but I don’t remember most of it. Mark attacks people who don’t support it. What has he done to promote it besides writing a book? Has he toured the country making speeches about it to groups?

[Mean Daddy]

How so?

[MileHi]

You obviously have no idea what article 5 is.

[DesertRhino]

It would unleash a storm of woke. People are acting like only conservatives would get to participate.

We would wind up with some nightmare like the Texas Constitution, 86936 words and 517 amendments (literally)
The US Constitution has 4543 words and 27 amendments.

The problem is the sick and heathen culture. A constitutional convention as an end run around it cannot work.

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

“Terrible idea as it would be hi-jacked sure as day, and an army of Leftist Lawyers would legalize their way into re-writing the US Constitution.”

Disinformation, designed to scare and panic people. And totally not possible.

All it would be, all that is allowed by the Constitution, is for the States to get together to propose amendments, instead of Congress. That’s it; nothing else is allowed.

If you think that could possibly result in the rewriting of The Constitution, please explain exactly how. But you won’t, because you can’t.

I’ll wait...

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

Wut???

Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

That’s the entire chapter.

[Jim W N]

Stupid.

Rush was wrong on a number of subjects.

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

Everyone on FR that is not a fed plant (or China) should join the COS movement.

https://conventionofstates.com/news/mark-meckler-explains-how-he-helped-found-the-convention-of-states-project-and-launch-the-modern-article-v-movement

[MinorityRepublican]

Terrible idea as it would be hi-jacked sure as day, and an army of Leftist Lawyers would legalize their way into re-writing the US Constitution.

Which is why the red states will never go for this. And you only need 15 of them to say no. So it's a non starter.

[Publius]

This is the usual boilerplate that I post to these threads. This info has been vetted by a professor of constitutional law.

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THE ARTICLE V AMENDATORY PROCESS

The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps:

1. Proposal;
2. Direction;
3. Ratification.

Proposal:

There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.

• The Congressional method requires the House and Senate to pass an amendment by a two thirds majority of each house.
• The amendments convention method requires the legislatures of two thirds of the states to pass resolutions directing Congress to call a convention for proposing amendments. These resolutions are called applications. Once the two thirds threshold is reached, Congress is required to set a time and place for the convention.

Article V gives Congress and an amendments convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, except that a convention is limited to proposing amendments specified in the application and there is no such limit on Congress.

Direction:

Once Congress, or an amendments convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:

• State legislature method, or the
• State ratifying convention method.

The state ratifying convention method has only been used once: to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition. A similar procedure was used to ratify the Constitution itself.

Ratification:

Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three fourths of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.

Forbidden Subjects:

Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and two implicitly forbidden subjects.

Explicitly forbidden:

1. No amendment may be added to the Constitution concerning the slave trade or direct taxes until 1808. We’re well past that deadline.
2. No amendment may be added to the Constitution to change the principle of equal representation in the Senate unless every state deprived of that right approves. If California wants five senators, every state must have five senators. To permit violation of this principle, every state would have to ratify the amendment, not just three fourths.

Implicitly forbidden:

1. The Constitution of 1787 may not be abrogated and replaced with a new document. Article V only authorizes “a convention for proposing amendments to this Constitution;” so the Constitution of 1787 is locked in place.
2. A convention for proposing amendments is limited to the topics authorized by state applications.

Reference work:

Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers

[Brian Griffin]

Article IV, Section 3:

“....The Congress shall have the power dispose of...property belonging to the United States...”

Congress has legislated the disposal of future income tax revenue not yet federal property to pay for handouts. That is not authorized.

[Basket_of_Deplorables]

“Stupid.

Rush was wrong on a number of subjects.”

Wow, such good logic there.

Plant.

[MinorityRepublican]

Everyone on FR that is not a fed plant (or China) should join the COS movement.

There is probably a lurker here right now.

[Publius]

Current countdown:

For a Convention of the States dedicated to Georgia’s application language, which would re-balance citizens’ rights and state powers versus federal power, the count is 19 down, 15 to go.

Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia, Wisconsin

For a Convention of the States dedicated to a balanced budget amendment only, the count is 30 down, 4 to go.