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November 22nd – Ukraine is about to be annihilated (Douglas MacGregor)
The Saker ^ | November 22, 2022 | Colonel Douglas MacGregor

Posted on 11/23/2022 2:52:07 PM PST by Cathi

Col MacGregor:

The military establishment that Putin and his government built in the last 15 to 20 years was designed preeminently to simply defend Russia. It was not designed for any offensive warfare against any neighbors. And I think that we failed to see that the reduction in the size of the force and the change in its orientation meant something very different from what it meant in Soviet times or even in the Tsars period. Mr. Putin went in to Eastern Ukraine with a set of assumptions that were not valid, but at the time he thought they were. He said we don't want to kill civilians. We don't want to destroy infrastructure. In fact we want to wage a very limited campaign because our principle interest is in eradicating these radical elements in the East, put an end to the hostile force that is being built up by the United States, NATO and Eastern Ukraine and come to some sort of agreement that would allow for the equal representation before the law for the rights of Russians living in Ukraine.

He thought well we're fighting a brother Slavic country and we don't want this to last any longer than it absolutely necessary and I think that he believed he would have a serious negotiating partner in Kiev and in Washington. He was wrong. Everything has now changed. It began changing in the summer. Decisions were made in August about how they would approach the rest of this campaign and now we are looking at a force of almost 700,000 troops surrounding Ukraine; the large probabilities of offenses beginning in the next 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8 weeks; whenever the ground freezes completely and the Russians judge their forces to be ready and they will move in and they will finish off this Ukrainian state. Let's not kid ourselves. The regime in Kiev is likely to be annihilated along with its forces. I think what we're going to see is what I described; the total destruction of this rump Ukrainian state.

If you look at strikes, that pattern of strikes that has begun certainly since Gen. Surovikin took over they are very different from what we saw previously. In Russia people were asking in the first months "Why haven't you done damage to the bridges, why haven't you attacked the transportation network, why haven't you attacked the electric grid, the energy system, why haven't you gone after the Ukrainian military installations...on and on and on. Well, those things are now happening. Ukraine can no longer manufacture any rocket fuel, its being destroyed. Ukraine is running out of diesel. Ukraine cannot maintain the cities because the power is gone.

This is going to continue until the Ukrainian people are starving, freezing and hopeless and then the Russian offensive will begin and it will be devastating. But, they are now treating Ukraine as a real enemy. Previously they did not and this is not understood in the West.


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To: irishjuggler
Malachi Martin on Kiev and Russia

Malachi Martin's Fatima Inspired Russia-Ukraine Prediction

21 posted on 11/23/2022 3:28:48 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: Cathi

take a flippin breath there girl...


22 posted on 11/23/2022 3:29:45 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Cathi

It’s all up to DC how this plays out. Incredibly, there is a majority in this country who are so media addled that they would fight and automatically lose WWIII to keep the DC stooge in power.


23 posted on 11/23/2022 3:31:59 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge )
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To: Chode

Lots of cray cray on this thread


24 posted on 11/23/2022 3:33:49 PM PST by TheConservator (Beware the tyranny of the woke mob. There has never been a greater threat to liberty.)
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To: Cathi

About the Editor
The European Saker In his own words: The European Saker falcon “I am a ‘legal alien’ currently living in the Imperial Homeland”

no name no papertrail... feh


25 posted on 11/23/2022 3:34:20 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Jonty30
I believe I read somewhere that there were supposed to be three world wars in Europe before the end times. This could be the third real world war.

Nobody know the future. There's already been five world wars in Europe since 1600:

Thirty Years War: 1618-1648
Seven Years War: 1754-1763
Napoleanic Wars: 1803-1815
World War I: 1914-1918
World War II: 1939-1945

26 posted on 11/23/2022 3:36:37 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Cathi
Git 'er done!


27 posted on 11/23/2022 3:36:48 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: jarwulf
I think Ukraine has been on the ‘brink of annihilation’ close to if not more than 100 times going by how often these posts are made.

Ukraine is safe from annihilation as long as they have the means to deny Russians air superiority, which they are only able to do as long as the U.S. keeps Ukraine supplied with effective air defense systems.

Russia isn't going to risk their heavy bombers over Ukraine if they don't have air superiority. These heavy bombers are part of their nuclear deterrence and they can't afford losing them.

If the Russians ever gain air superiority, the war will be over quickly. Ukraine will be turned into Grozny.

Until then, it's kinda mired into a stalemate and will likely stay as such through winter.

28 posted on 11/23/2022 3:40:30 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Cathi

Hey anybody remember when Col. Douglas MacGregor predicted that NATO would collapse because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine? Hard to be more consistently wrong than this assclown. https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4043283/posts


29 posted on 11/23/2022 3:48:18 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: John S Mosby

So was MacGregor just completely unaware of when winter hits Ukraine when he said October, then November, then December...? If so, then his analysis isn’t worth a warm bucket of spit.


30 posted on 11/23/2022 3:48:31 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

The first three only involved European powers. WW1 and WW2 were planned wars to take out Russia, Germany and China. The third ww, if Epperson is right, is meant to take out the US and subjugate it into thevworld order.


31 posted on 11/23/2022 3:48:45 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: John S Mosby
Long winters there in the Ukraine. Ground gets very hard by January/February. The muddy roads, aren’t anymore. And also, the power is out to 10 million people.

I'm sure the Ukrainians know nothing about Ukrainian winters.

32 posted on 11/23/2022 3:48:50 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Cathi

“It was not designed for any offensive warfare against any neighbors. “

Those Guard Tank Armies on the border of West Germany were designed for offensive warfare.


33 posted on 11/23/2022 4:00:50 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: Cathi

Annihilation is unlikely.

Russia is probably going to either slice off Odessa or the eastern half of Ukraine.

The government of Ukraine will then be asked to agree to toe the Russian line or face further military action.


34 posted on 11/23/2022 4:05:00 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I thought they lost.. like 100s of times, for several months...


35 posted on 11/23/2022 4:06:58 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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To: Cathi

I thought that was supposed to happen at the end of last May


36 posted on 11/23/2022 4:10:06 PM PST by roving ( Pronouns- libs/suk)
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To: Alter Kaker

Having a worthwhile and informative counter perspective or data breaking from the ‘mainstream’ narrative is one thing. Embarrassing yourself constantly is another.


37 posted on 11/23/2022 4:20:00 PM PST by jarwulf
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To: Cathi

Mc Gregor is a boot licking Putin stooge who has been wrong every time


38 posted on 11/23/2022 4:22:14 PM PST by njslim
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To: jacknhoo

I agree with you that the West started this war and I agree they, up until recently, wanted to continue it for as long as possible in an attempt to “bleed Russia white.”

What I disagree with is “The West will not let Russia end this war.” They NOW want out of this so bad they can taste it..:-)

Russia has been destroying Ukraine’s infrastructure and in many cases it will be years before it is fully repaired. Russia has switched gears and dramatically enlarged a reasonably well trained force at a time when Ukraine has literally run out of manpower. As MacGregor says in another part of that video I posted is that Ukraine’s new manpower is down to 16 year old boys and over 55 year old men...all untrained.

Russians have reported that Ukraine’s offensives involved thousands of men in September and early October. Then they were in the “hundreds” in late October. Now, though they do continue to wage multiple offensives (all of which fail) they do so with forces that number in the dozens.

The Biden administration pressures NATO partners for more weapons for Ukraine endlessly and getting very poor cooperation currently. No, Croatia will not participate in training troops, no Lithuania will not send the anti-air defense items they had promised (they say they need to keep them for there own defense) no Italy will not send more heavy weapons; just humanitarian aid, etc.

The West is out of useable weapons to send Ukraine. Interestingly when I read the Russian Ministry of Defense report each day they are now reporting reduced tank kills; but lots of truck and car kills. In other words, the Ukrainians have very few tanks left in the battles. Many of the troops come by unarmored car or truck.

Europe is experiencing more angry protests all the time and we haven’t even gotten into the freezing situation.

I think MacGregor, Ritter, Johnson, etc. are right. We are in the beginning of the end. Russia’s large offensive (with 3 times the initial manpower) against a country with minimal electricity, heat, water, transportation and very little effective fighting manpower will not be able to prolong this war even if that is what the Biden Administration wants.


39 posted on 11/23/2022 4:29:17 PM PST by Cathi
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To: TheConservator

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40 posted on 11/23/2022 4:32:41 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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