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Net Zero Bombshell: The World Does Not Have Enough Lithium and Cobalt to Replace All Batteries Every 10 Years – Finnish Government Report
Daily Sceptic ^ | 22 OCTOBER 2022 9:00 AM | by Chris Morrison

Posted on 10/25/2022 9:18:54 AM PDT by Red Badger

Influential elites are either in denial about the horrifying costs and consequences of Net Zero – witness last Wednesday’s substantial vote against fracking British gas in the House of Commons – or busy scooping up the almost unlimited amounts of money currently on offer for promoting pseudoscience climate scares and investing in impracticable green technologies. Until the lights start to go out and heating fails, they are unlikely to pay much attention to a recent 1,000 page alternative energy investigation undertaken for a Finnish Government agency by Associate Professor Simon Michaux. Referring to the U.K.’s 2050 Net Zero target, Michaux states there is “simply not enough time, nor resources to do this by the current target”.

https://tupa.gtk.fi/raportti/arkisto/42_2021.pdf

To cite just one example of how un-costed Net Zero is, Michaux notes that “in theory” there are enough global reserves of nickel and lithium if they are exclusively used to produce batteries for electric vehicles. But there is not enough cobalt, and more will need to be discovered. It gets much worse. All the new batteries have a useful working life of only 8-10 years, so replacements will need to be regularly produced. “This is unlikely to be practical, which suggests the whole EV battery solution may need to be re-thought and a new solution is developed that is not so mineral intensive,” he says.

All of these problems occur in finding a mass of lithium for ion batteries weighting 286.6 million tonnes. But a “power buffer” of another 2.5 billion tonnes of batteries is also required to provide a four-week back-up for intermittent wind and solar electricity power. Of course, this is simply not available from global mineral reserves, but, states Michaux, it is not clear how the buffer could be delivered with an alternative system.

Michaux sounds a clear warning message. Current expectations are that global industrial businesses will replace a complex industrial energy ecosystem that took more than a century to build. It was built with the support of the highest calorifically dense source of energy the world has ever known (oil), in cheap abundant quantities, with easily available credit and seemingly unlimited mineral resources. The replacement, he notes, needs to be done when there is comparatively very expensive energy, a fragile finance system saturated in debt and not enough minerals. Most challenging of all, it has to be done within a few decades. Based on his copious calculations, the author is of the opinion that it will not go fully “as planned”.

Last Sunday, Sir David Attenborough concluded six episodes of pseudoscientific green agitprop Frozen Planet II by demanding that the world embrace Net Zero, “no matter how challenging it may be”. Net Zero is a political command-and-control project, the full horror of which is yet to be inflicted on the general population. Michaux is quite clear what it entails: “What may be required, therefore, is a significant reduction of societal demand for all resources, of all kinds. This implies a very different social contract and a radically different system of governance to what is in place today.”

Of course, a radically different system of government is available in the People’s Republic of China, but here the position on Net Zero is a tad more nuanced. Having lifted about a billion people out of starving poverty in the last 40 years and become the workshop for an increasingly complacent western world – all powered by fossil fuel – the cause does not seem so pressing. Speaking to the Communist Party Congress earlier this week, President Xi Jinping sounded a note of caution and said “prudence” would govern China’s efforts to peak and eventually zero-out carbon emissions. All of this would be in line with the principle of “getting the new before discarding the old”.

Meanwhile, China’s coal production is reported to have reached record levels, while the Congress was told that oil and gas exploration will be expanded as part of measures to ensure “energy security”.

Michaux points out that nearly 85% of world energy comes from fossil fuel. By his calculations, the annual global capacity of non-fossil electrical power will need to quadruple to 37,670.6 TWh. In a recent report for the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF), Professor Michael Kelly estimates that the U.K. electricity grid would have to expand by 2.7 times. This will involve adding capacity at eight times the rate it has been added over the last 30 years. If calculations are made for the need to rewire homes, streets, local substations and powerlines to carry the new capacity, the extra cost will be nearly £1 trillion.

In another recent GWPF paper, the energy writer John Constable warned that the European Green Deal seems all but certain to break Europe’s economic and socio-political power, “rendering it a trivial and incapable backwater, reliant on – and subservient to – superior powers”.

History provides us with many examples of weak, or weakened, tribes being overrun by stronger tribes. In the animal kingdom it is known as natural evolution. A 96-year old ‘national treasure’ preaches we have to pay any price to satisfy the new cult of the green god. Better costed and more rational views are available.

Chris Morrison is the Daily Sceptic’s Environment Editor.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Military/Veterans; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: 0iqputintrolls; 0iqrussiantrolls; batteries; energy; ev; evbatteries; finland; minerals; mining; russiansuicide; vladtheimploder
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To: jimfree

There is enough oil and NG to last a thousand years yet the climate a-holes have brought misery to the world.


41 posted on 10/25/2022 9:47:17 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: absalom01

The ‘Elites’ want us to live in the 19th Century, while THEY LIVE IN THE 21st CENTURY.....................


42 posted on 10/25/2022 9:50:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: C210N
> But, if one does the same math for 500 million...

Are you the guy who blew up the Guidestones ?
Asking for a friend.

43 posted on 10/25/2022 9:52:14 AM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Make way, everyone! The Finnish government has finally entered the World Stage of Players with an apocalyptic discovery!


44 posted on 10/25/2022 9:53:01 AM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Red Badger
Net Zero Bombshell: The World Does Not Have Enough Lithium and Cobalt to Replace All Batteries Every 10 Years – Finnish Government Report

The industry is, as you would expect, constantly working on improving Li-ion battery technologies while also developing entirely new EV battery technologies to eventually replace Li-ion. There are even some newer Li-ion EV batteries that use very little cobalt. Technology always advances. So it's no "Bombshell" news item. LOL.

A few folks on this forum desperately want the EV industry to totally collapse. Ain't gonna happen. And it's also not the end of the world for gas-powered ICE autos either. They will peacefully coexist. Yet it's a continuous, inevitable, gradual move away from ICE automobiles towards EVs. It's really hard to tell that's the case when you look at all the legacy ICE automobile companies who are really struggling to come up with even a half-decent EV to put on the road. OTOH, you have Tesla which is the world's dominant EV automaker by far. That's all it's been making for over two decades - EVs. And it's working on a lot of other advanced technologies as well. I guess that's a nice side effect of its CEO also being the CEO of SpaceX which launches U.S. astronauts into space, transporting them to the International Space Station (on behalf of NASA).

45 posted on 10/25/2022 9:54:43 AM PDT by gw-ington (My Preferred Pronouns: senile, sleepy, puppet, laughing, hyena, stolen, election.)
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To: C210N

Well, they’ll need vast numbers of children to mine all that cobalt, so the population will be back to 8 billion before you know it.


46 posted on 10/25/2022 9:56:01 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: TexasGator

Didn’t take you long. Welcome.

Dazzle everyone with your EV genius.

You say that, but damn near every other EV nerd has said, time and time again, on this site that one shouldn’t fully charge their toy cars as it will damage the battery and cause it to degrade prematurely. Thus causing the battery to be replaced.

And in the case of the Ford EV truck you really get in the shorts

https://ijr.com/report-ford-electric-truck-battery-replacement-costs-35000/

https://www.westernjournal.com/report-ford-electric-truck-battery-replacement-costs-35000/

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1708312-f150-lightning-battery-replacement-cost.html

https://americanfaith.com/10-year-old-ev-battery-replacement-costs-30k/

https://nbc-2.com/news/2022/08/29/cape-coral-man-received-30k-estimate-for-electric-car-battery-replacement/

Your response.....NOT TRUE. All of these stories came from a Mother Jones article. Lies, I tell ya. Lies.

So, which is it? Are you and SmokingJoe done polishing some of Elon’s turds already. Picked up some of his toenail clippings for souvenirs?


47 posted on 10/25/2022 9:56:13 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: supremedoctrine
Net Zero Bombshell: The World Does Not Have Enough Lithium and Cobalt to Replace All Batteries Every 10 Years – Finnish Government Report

FINISHED!!

The Finns of course have been living on fish and vodka for decades: DOWN THE HATCH!!

48 posted on 10/25/2022 9:56:47 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Red Badger

I understand that Congress has looked into that not so little
problem and has ordered battery manufacturers to get their arses in gear and invent a new kind of battery.
See. Problem solved.


49 posted on 10/25/2022 9:57:24 AM PDT by Tupelo (Don't under estimate the Republicans ability to f*** things up)
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To: curious7

“They still run out of it eventually. Unlike hydrocarbons which are generated deep in the mantle and migrate up to where they are accessible.”

Oil is generated from former living organisms which are finite in quantity.


50 posted on 10/25/2022 10:00:10 AM PDT by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: Red Badger

That closes the lid on EVs, or should!


51 posted on 10/25/2022 10:00:52 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Kick every last democrat out of office! )
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To: Red Badger

Duh, I’ve been saying that for years.


52 posted on 10/25/2022 10:04:26 AM PDT by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Red Badger

Why would you replace the entire world’s batteries every ten years?


53 posted on 10/25/2022 10:04:47 AM PDT by dangus
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

” You will need an energy storage medium for vehicles that doesn’t require lithium or cobalt. “

We have Cobalt-free batteries and there is ample lithium.


54 posted on 10/25/2022 10:05:49 AM PDT by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: Red Badger

They know that. The point is to destroy personal transportation.


55 posted on 10/25/2022 10:08:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: qaz123

“You say that, but damn near every other EV nerd has said, time and time again, on this site that one shouldn’t fully charge their toy cars as it will damage the battery and cause it to degrade prematurely. Thus causing the battery to be replaced.”

Most people don’t drive 400 miles a day! If you do take a long trip, charge to full. No problem.


56 posted on 10/25/2022 10:09:28 AM PDT by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: Leaning Right

correct...math has been proven to be racist.


57 posted on 10/25/2022 10:10:27 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: qaz123

Do youn top off your gas tank every day?


58 posted on 10/25/2022 10:11:43 AM PDT by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: C210N
But, if one does the same math for 500 million...

There are 1.5 billion active cars in the world and the number is probably rising.

59 posted on 10/25/2022 10:14:21 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: dangus

“Why would you replace the entire world’s batteries every ten years?”

You wouldn’t.


60 posted on 10/25/2022 10:15:03 AM PDT by TexasGator (!!!)
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