Posted on 10/12/2022 2:54:48 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
A customer says that she tipped $4 on a $17 UberEats order and couldn't get a driver to pick it up in a now-viral TikTok, sparking debate about tipping expectations on delivery apps.
In the video posted by TikToker Syd (@stillpoorandhungry) on Oct. 10, she references the viral "table of shame" of UberEats orders that never get picked up due to a low or missing tip.
"I ordered my food a really long time ago, and it still doesn't have a driver, so I'm worried that it will end up on that shelf of bad tippers," she says in the clip.
She continues that her order total "with fees and taxes" was $17, saying that she even "rounded up" the tip to $4.
"I'm gathering on this app that that is a bad tip. The app was even suggesting that I tip $8 to $10," she says. "I was a server for like ten years. On what planet is a 50% plus tip like a standard tip? Why would I tip almost the equal cost of the entire meal?"
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“Sometimes I just got to a grocery store and get a sub or a roasted chicken.
I’m also really weird. Sometimes instead of hotels, I go to a state park and camp.”
Kudos, this is how I roll too.
I was at a Dominoes one evening a few months ago picking up an order. While waiting in my car, an older delivery driver asked me if I wanted to buy some pizzas at half price. I didn’t, but we began to talk. He was retired and worked as a driver because SS was not enough. He told me that throughout the day they always receive orders which are never picked up, or cannot be delivered. The store lets him take the unwanted pizzas home at the end of his shift, sometimes twenty or more, and he sells them wherever he can. This, with his SS and wages, is how he got by.
So, it’s not really a tip, but a delivery fee?
I can see $4 not being worth it to the driver, but the business model should be honest about the charge.
“Everywhere I go there’s a tip jar nowadays.”
It’s crazy that fast-food joints are nickel-and-diming customers for tips now. It seems to me that during the covid-19 era a lot of takeout-type food places started aggressively pushing for tips. The Habit (CA-based burger chain now part of the Yum group with KFC, Taco Bell etc) now asks for tips if you use a credit card. I used to have the idea that tipping was for good service in a real restaurant (i.e., the waiters attentively filing your water glass, checking if you needed fresh-ground pepper, refilling your coffee etc.). Simply handing me a bag with the burger and fries that I just paid for calls for a 20-percent tip? Sorry, but that’s bulls—t. We used to laugh at the ‘70s McDonald’s print ad that showed a black family and bragged about McD’s “no tipping” policy. It’s not that funny anymore. It’s actually a breath of fresh air now to be at a place like McD’s that isn’t grubbing for tips.
I was also thinking a large part of it could be the restaurant itself. Enough bad experiences and drivers will not want to pick up there even at well compensated levels.
They do but on a $17 order how much of that do you think they get? Not much.
Reality is, simple, if no driver is willing to take the order they are being paid to little to make it worth their while, pure and simple… trying to argue where the pay brakes down from doesn’t really matter.
If no one’s willing to take the delivery you need to up your tip to make it worth their time
Many years ago, the employee at the window of Sonic wanted a tip. For doing what? Not long after the person that brought the sack to my car that was parked right at the door wanted a tip and got all huffy about it. Here’s a tip, walking 20 feet gets you my 2 cents.
I’ve gone out to eat once since before covid raised its ugly head and that was just for burgers. They couldn’t be bothered to put it in a paper tray or give a napkin so we had oily drips all over the table and us. Tip? I don’t think so.
Many years ago, the employee at the window of Sonic wanted a tip. For doing what? Not long after the person that brought the sack to my car that was parked right at the door wanted a tip and got all huffy about it. Here’s a tip, walking 20 feet gets you my 2 cents.
I’ve gone out to eat once since before covid raised its ugly head and that was just for burgers. They couldn’t be bothered to put it in a paper tray or give a napkin so we had oily drips all over the table and us. Tip? I don’t think so.
Delivery drivers also consider the total tip since each delivery is essentially the same effort. Much better to get $10 tip on a $100 order than $5 tip for a $5 order.
When you always tip well at a nice restaurant, the staff will take care of you like family and I think it is necessary to get full experience.
More and better food, easier reservations and easier to get a table with no reservations.
When I come in, everyone knows me and my party are treated like Kings every time. Food comes out better than in the photos.
My friends that don’t tip will complain about the same restaurants and I say “gee I wonder why”.
I recognize in addition to hard work I’ve been very fortunate in life to be where I am now. Many people working just as hard don’t always come upon good fortune and there is plenty of misfortune in the world that sets good people back. That is why we have the concept of “giving back” and it makes me happy to do so for hard working people.
Taking care of the unfortunate when you are fortunate is one of the foundations of Christianity and Civilization
My first job was as a car hop at Sonic.
The “tip” was usually the change to round up to the nearest dollar.
Hey. You gotta marry her first before you have a right to say that to her.
I don't use these services but I'm not so sure it won't last.
My wife and I were recently at a Bob Evans for breakfast on a Sunday morning. After waiting a long time for our food, we were walking out. Our waitress saw us and pointed out that the food in the window had just come up and it was ours and ask us to stay. We said OK if the manager would compensate us well (she did).
But the manager said the problem of it taking so long was with the delivery orders kept coming in. I took that to mean that if a delivery order came in, it went to the head of the line in front of the in-house orders.
I know several people who do this to on the side… if you are good with logistics and selective of the orders you take, and times you work, you can net $20 an hour in my market, but you have to be smart to make it. Know what restaurants never have their orders ready… know the travel times and distances etc.. have your orders line up your pick ups and drop offs, double or triple runs to maximize your earnings.
Drivers learn quickly what is worth or not worth their time if they are smart. I don’t know the facts but I suspect they have very high turnover as many drivers try it and realize it’s a hustle to make it actually worth their time honestly. Given they spend millions advertising to recruit drivers I suspect highly their turnover is very high.
I go to Bob Evans whenever I want to feel young…
I’m 51 and anytime I walk In there I am usually the youngest person by close to 2 decades in the place
Cracker Barrel falls into the same category. I always feel like a spring chicken in that place (I'm 60).
On what planet is uber eats the way you get meals?
I never enjoyed going out. I can make better food at home and it’s always served hot and I can refill my cup in two seconds. It’s also much cheaper and I don’t have to waste time and gas or dress up. I know no one coughed or sneezed snot in the meal and hands were washed several times and the ingredients weren’t half rotten or had rodents crawling across it.
At a non cash concert venue I go to you buy a $16 beer at the counter and the card screen asks for a 15% or 20% or 25% tip. HUH? it's ZERO. I did all the work, they just reached 2 feet behind them and grabbed the beer from the cooler.
When I was in a nursing home recently (health care issues), the meals they served me were downright awful in taste and quality. So I resorted to ordering outside food through a Doordash app. The service was great. But the food I ordered would cost more than twice if I had gone to the places to pick up the food myself.
First off the the restaurants and fast food places all charged a buck or two more for every single item they sold.
For example, a large soda from McDonald’s costs 1 buck if you buy it in person inside the place (or in the drive thru). But a large soda from mcdonalds costs 3.19 if you buy it through the app.
And then they tack on taxes, a service fee, and then the tip (an amount that you get to choose).
I was paying anywhere from 20-50 bucks per meal. Expensive, but considering the circumstances of being temporrily stuck in a nursing home with their godawful food (even the hospital food was vastly superior), it was worth it.
I understand tipping for exemplary service at a regular restaurant. Fast food, where you’re doing all the front work never gets a tip.
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