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Weekly Garden Thread - October 1-7, 2022 [International Coffee Day Edition]
October 1, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 10/01/2022 6:40:39 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


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International Coffee Day, 2022


1 posted on 10/01/2022 6:40:39 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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2 posted on 10/01/2022 6:43:52 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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The History of Coffee

No one knows exactly how or when coffee was discovered, though there are many legends about its origin.

An Ethiopian Legend

GoatsCoffee grown worldwide can trace its heritage back centuries to the ancient coffee forests on the Ethiopian plateau. There, legend says the goat herder Kaldi first discovered the potential of these beloved beans.

The story goes that that Kaldi discovered coffee after he noticed that after eating the berries from a certain tree, his goats became so energetic that they did not want to sleep at night.

Kaldi reported his findings to the abbot of the local monastery, who made a drink with the berries and found that it kept him alert through the long hours of evening prayer. The abbot shared his discovery with the other monks at the monastery, and knowledge of the energizing berries began to spread.

As word moved east and coffee reached the Arabian peninsula, it began a journey which would bring these beans across the globe.
The Arabian Peninsula

Coffee cultivation and trade began on the Arabian Peninsula. By the 15th century, coffee was being grown in the Yemeni district of Arabia and by the 16th century it was known in Persia, Egypt, Syria, and Turkey.

Coffee was not only enjoyed in homes, but also in the many public coffee houses — called qahveh khaneh — which began to appear in cities across the Near East. The popularity of the coffee houses was unequaled and people frequented them for all kinds of social activity.

Not only did the patrons drink coffee and engage in conversation, but they also listened to music, watched performers, played chess and kept current on the news. Coffee houses quickly became such an important center for the exchange of information that they were often referred to as “Schools of the Wise.”

With thousands of pilgrims visiting the holy city of Mecca each year from all over the world, knowledge of this “wine of Araby” began to spread.
Coffee Comes to Europe

European travelers to the Near East brought back stories of an unusual dark black beverage. By the 17th century, coffee had made its way to Europe and was becoming popular across the continent.

Some people reacted to this new beverage with suspicion or fear, calling it the “bitter invention of Satan.” The local clergy condemned coffee when it came to Venice in 1615. The controversy was so great that Pope Clement VIII was asked to intervene. He decided to taste the beverage for himself before making a decision, and found the drink so satisfying that he gave it papal approval.

Despite such controversy, coffee houses were quickly becoming centers of social activity and communication in the major cities of England, Austria, France, Germany and Holland. In England “penny universities” sprang up, so called because for the price of a penny one could purchase a cup of coffee and engage in stimulating conversation.

Coffee began to replace the common breakfast drink beverages of the time — beer and wine. Those who drank coffee instead of alcohol began the day alert and energized, and not surprisingly, the quality of their work was greatly improved. (We like to think of this a precursor to the modern office coffee service.)

By the mid-17th century, there were over 300 coffee houses in London, many of which attracted like-minded patrons, including merchants, shippers, brokers and artists.

Many businesses grew out of these specialized coffee houses. Lloyd’s of London, for example, came into existence at the Edward Lloyd’s Coffee House.
The New World

In the mid-1600’s, coffee was brought to New Amsterdam, later called New York by the British.

Though coffee houses rapidly began to appear, tea continued to be the favored drink in the New World until 1773, when the colonists revolted against a heavy tax on tea imposed by King George III. The revolt, known as the Boston Tea Party, would forever change the American drinking preference to coffee.

“Coffee - the favorite drink of the civilized world.” - Thomas Jefferson

More at link:

https://www.ncausa.org/About-Coffee/History-of-Coffee


3 posted on 10/01/2022 6:46:20 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

4 posted on 10/01/2022 6:49:15 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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How to Grow and Care For a Coffee Plant

Even if not harvesting beans, this attractive houseplant is easy to grow indoors

The coffee plant is an attractive little specimen with glossy green leaves and a compact growth habit. It makes a surprisingly good potted indoor plant. Native to Ethiopia, the coffee plant (Coffea arabica) will flower in the spring with small white flowers and then bear half-inch berries that gradually darken from green to blackish pods. Each of these fruits contains two seeds, which eventually become the coffee beans you use to brew coffee.

In their native habitat, coffee plants grow into medium-sized trees. But growers regularly prune the plants to be a more manageable size, especially when the plants are grown indoors. (Note that you can’t grow coffee plants from the beans you buy in a store; those have been treated and roasted and will not sprout.) Even though coffee plants are vigorous growers, it will typically take a few years before your plant produces flowers and subsequent fruits.

Other than the seeds, it’s important to know that all plant parts are toxic to both humans and animals.

Coffee Plant Care

The best environment in which to grow coffee plants is to mimic its natural conditions found on a tropical, mid-elevation mountainside: plenty of water with good drainage, high humidity, relatively cool temperatures, and rich, slightly acidic soil.

You can grow coffee plants outdoors if the conditions are similar to their natural environment. Indoors, coffee plants do best placed near a window but not in direct sunlight. Make sure to keep the plant away from drafts, such as those produced from air conditioning. Be prepared to water at least weekly to keep the soil moist.

Light

Coffee plants prefer dappled sunlight or full sunlight in weaker latitudes. They are actually understory plants (existing under the forest canopy) and do not thrive in direct, harsh sunlight. Coffee plants that are exposed to too much direct sunlight will develop leaf browning.

Soil

Plant coffee plants in a rich, peat-based potting soil with excellent drainage. Coffee plants prefer acidic soil, so if your plant is not thriving add organic matter such as sphagnum peat moss to lower soil pH. The ideal pH range is closer to 6 to 6.5.

Water

These plants are water lovers and require both regular and ample watering. The soil should stay evenly moist but not waterlogged. Never allow the soil to dry out completely.4

Temperature and Humidity

The optimal average temperature range for coffee plants is a daytime temperature between 70 to 80 degrees and a nighttime temperature between 65 to 70 degrees. Higher (hotter) temperatures can accelerate growth, but higher temperatures are not ideal for growing plants for their beans. The fruits need to ripen at a slow, steady pace.

In addition, because these plants naturally grow on the sides of tropical mountains, they thrive in highly humid conditions which usually receive plenty of rain and fog. A humidity level of 50 percent or higher should suffice. If the air is too dry, the leaf edges might start to brown. Mist the plant daily to raise the humidity level.

Fertilizer

Feed with a weak liquid fertilizer throughout the growing season every couple of weeks. Cut the fertilizer back to once a month or so in the winter.

More at link:

https://www.thespruce.com/grow-coffee-plants-1902614


5 posted on 10/01/2022 6:53:39 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: martin_fierro

Shouldn’t you tag “Humblegrumbler” to this? LOL!

NO! DON’T! :)


6 posted on 10/01/2022 6:55:38 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I am enjoying my first cup of the day. We visit the local farmers market every Saturday in the season and get coffee there from Valentine’s Coffee from Milwaukee. Today they had a soft and lovely Brazil coffee for us.

Today is the day I get rid of most of the potted outdoor plants. Hubby COULD take down the veggie garden, but he is deferring for a couple weeks. That chill is in the air today!


7 posted on 10/01/2022 6:58:18 AM PDT by freemama
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To: freemama

We made the rounds of our favorite Fall spots, yesterday. Apple Orchard, Pumpkin Patch and the Alpaca farm.

It was a perfect Fall day, all the say around.

I’m not a coffee snob in the least, but I DO appreciate a fine roast when I can afford one. :)


8 posted on 10/01/2022 7:04:02 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The last berry on the end of a twig contains only one bean. This is called the “Peaberry” and when used exclusively , produces the nicest brew on earth.

My favorite is Kona Peaberry, grown on the island of Hawaii.

Mmmm Mmmmm Mmmmm


9 posted on 10/01/2022 7:04:16 AM PDT by left that other site (Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Coffee plants prefer acidic soil, so if your plant is not thriving add organic matter such as sphagnum peat moss to lower soil pH.

My sister bought a bag of soil acidifier to add to the containers she planted her blueberries in. I think she said it's formulated specifically for blueberries and hydrangeas (sp?). Would that stuff be OK to mix in with the coffee plant's potting soil?

10 posted on 10/01/2022 7:10:57 AM PDT by AFB-XYZ (Stand up, or bend over)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

I was drinking my first cup of coffee at 3:30 am this morning - just couldn’t sleep. We had a bit of a “blow” going on last evening - Ian remnants. Lost power for a while & had to go on the generator, but we’ve got power back. Still light showers now and again this morning, but at least the wind has died down. I’ve emptied the coffee pot (32 oz) & can barely stay awake - I think I need a nap!

Yesterday was “garden book day” …. 3 that I’d ordered were delivered early in the afternoon (weather wasn’t horrible yet):

The Heirloom Gardener by Jon Forti (used copy for me - looks new, so I’m pleased with that). I’ve read a couple of chapters & like it a lot so far. He can really express his thoughts well and what he says, makes you think … in a good way. Lots of nostalgia for the way things used to be done and determination to bring those ways back. I also bought a new copy to gift to a friend who loves to garden (herbs & flowers in particular).

Roots Shoots Buckets & Boots by Sharon Lovejoy – Christmas present for the great-nieces. I LOVE this book!! Their mom will love it too …. I’ll just bet they do the “Pizza Garden” next spring.

Sunflower Houses by Sharon Lovejoy – also a Christmas present for the great-nieces. I think their mom will get more use out this book until the girls are much older. Still, it’s got some good stuff in it.


11 posted on 10/01/2022 7:11:56 AM PDT by Qiviut (The unvaccinated, the chosen of the invisible ark ✝️ .... (author unknown))
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To: left that other site

I’ve had that! The Hawaiian coffees are really something!


12 posted on 10/01/2022 7:19:41 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: AFB-XYZ
Check the label so you don't over-do it, but I don't see why not.

'Miracid' from Miracle Grow is a good liquid application if you're growing a coffee tree as a houseplant. Make a lighter concoction than you would for an outside tree or shrub, or course.


13 posted on 10/01/2022 7:23:27 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

My tree of gold was smashed by Ian.

A high ficus of a neighbor was knocked over - only good thing about Ian. It was very shallowly rooted.

The oaks lost most of their leaves and some of their branches.

The small shrubs have become poorly rooted after get whipped around by Ian.

One of my slash pines lost its top.

My big oleander got bent over and I will have to replace it.

Almost all my dwarf poincianas got bent over and will need replacement.

My still modest sized royal poinciana got knocked over.


14 posted on 10/01/2022 7:24:02 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Qiviut
My copy of 'The Heirloom Gardener' is here, too! Yay! Just started the Preface. Liking it so far, and LOVING that one of my favorite Artists, Mary Azarian, did the illustrations! Bonus!


15 posted on 10/01/2022 7:31:13 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Brian Griffin

How awful! I would dearly miss all of my ‘friends’ if something like that happened up here.

I mean, we DO get tornadoes, but it’s been a few decades since our area has been hard-hit.

My sincere condolences!

Will insurance cover replacing any of your landscaping?


16 posted on 10/01/2022 7:33:50 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes...they are. I love other coffees too, but Kona’s my favorite.


17 posted on 10/01/2022 7:34:18 AM PDT by left that other site (Peacemakers who sow in peace reap a harvest of righteousness.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
CLICK ON THE PICTURE OF COOL WEATHER CROPS

TO LINK BACK TO THE SEPTEMBER 24-30 2022 WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD
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18 posted on 10/01/2022 7:34:31 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yesterday, I prepared a couple beds for spring, pulled out the unproductive raspberries, dug a trench for fallen branches (hugelkultur, German for heap gardening) and covered with soil, sowed with winter rye, my first cover crop.

Dog dug herself a nest in the raised bed, didn’t help me with my digging. I wonder if you can train them.

Also threatened all other household members of consequences if they compact my soil.

Has anyone here used a broadfork?
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19 posted on 10/01/2022 7:37:20 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: Pollard; Diana in Wisconsin; All
Pollard's F/R profile page is the location of his Prepper links and Data Base. Click on the open book to link to his homepage!

Sorry! Someone removed the original image!

20 posted on 10/01/2022 7:43:05 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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