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I have, yet another, dumb question. Hopefully FR experts can answer.

Is this actually evolution or is it actually adaptation? Or is there a difference?

1 posted on 09/30/2022 11:07:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Definitely not so-called evolution. This is a repeat of the pepper moth fiasco.


2 posted on 09/30/2022 11:09:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: BenLurkin

I would think adaptation is the same as micro evolution but I’m no Biologist.


3 posted on 09/30/2022 11:11:08 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: BenLurkin

Certainly adaptation is seen all the time. That’s not all that interesting, to me.

The key question of Evolution is: “Do we all come from a common ancestor?” Perhaps there was once a simple single-cell organism. All the fish, all the birds, all the frogs, all the primates, all the cats and dogs come from that simple single-cell organism. Or do they?

Having frogs get darker does not, in my opinion, contribute to that central question.

I want to see frogs turn into toads, or mice turn into bats. Show me a species that turns into another species. Or at least define “species” in a stable way rather than a “it depends” kind of way.

I put Evolution in the same category as Climate Change. Seems like a religion to me.


4 posted on 09/30/2022 11:12:52 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: BenLurkin

That’s RACIST!..................


5 posted on 09/30/2022 11:12:54 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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So if radioactivity can cause skin color to turn dark was there some event in Africa?...

Meet Oklo, the Earth’s Two-billion-year-old only Known Natural Nuclear Reactor

I apologize for that there.

7 posted on 09/30/2022 11:14:23 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: BenLurkin

Radiation doesn’t add anything, it takes away. If the genetic structure is modified it’s because it takes away part of it.


8 posted on 09/30/2022 11:14:52 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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Adaption, natural selection.

That’s assuming the observations are correct and the hypothetical premise is correct.

Theoretically if radiation were killing frogs, but darker skin due to melanin mitigated the radiation harm, more frogs with darker skin would survive in the population.


9 posted on 09/30/2022 11:15:02 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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“I have, yet another, dumb question. Hopefully FR experts can answer.”

How many times have you asked that same dumb question?


10 posted on 09/30/2022 11:15:24 AM PDT by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: BenLurkin

https://www.icr.org/article/peppered-moth-still-not-evolving


12 posted on 09/30/2022 11:16:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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From the article (bold-faced mine):
" The dark colouration is typical of frogs from within or near the most contaminated areas at the time of the accident. The study of the Chernobyl black frogs constitutes a first step to better understanding the protective role of melanin in environments affected by radioactive contamination. In addition, it opens the doors to promising applications in fields as diverse as nuclear waste management and space exploration."

There you have it. The Darwinists are laying the groundwork for saying that only blacks should work near dangerous nuclear reactors and wastes.

13 posted on 09/30/2022 11:16:38 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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So if we have a nuclear war, dark skinned people are more likely to survive?


14 posted on 09/30/2022 11:17:24 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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I think I'm seeing me some good jokes here! Me and them black frogs. Yeah! Yeah!
16 posted on 09/30/2022 11:20:56 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: BenLurkin

Should’nt “black frogs “ be capitalized?


21 posted on 09/30/2022 11:30:24 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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Apparently, no one taught these frogs a very crucial life truth: Wash up after weekly cross-burning Remember to Wash-Up after weekly cross-burning
26 posted on 09/30/2022 11:45:06 AM PDT by ExcursionGuy84 (MadeinUSAForever.com/)
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To: BenLurkin

The Theory of Evolution is entirely consistent with Christianity.


27 posted on 09/30/2022 11:46:36 AM PDT by bwest
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If that is true then after the bombs fall the ayam gemini chicken will be eating all of the cockroaches.

The ayam gemini - even its internal organs are ebony black:


29 posted on 09/30/2022 11:49:05 AM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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I am Scottish heritage. Very little radiation protection. An adaptation to perpetually cloudy British isles in Northern latitude. My adaptation is to gather rare sunlight and make d3.


30 posted on 09/30/2022 11:49:38 AM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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Not a black swan, but...


33 posted on 09/30/2022 11:56:04 AM PDT by null and void (Can't hear the Rod Serling narration? You are not in the audience. You are a part of the story.)
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This is natural selection. In the same way gingers burn more easily in sunlight, lighter skinned frogs absorbed more radiation. The darker skinned frogs out survived the lighter skinned frogs and got better odds at reproduction. This leads to more dark frogs than light frogs.


39 posted on 09/30/2022 2:08:13 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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I would call it “local natural selection.” It may not be a permanent change, in a generation or two in the absence of radiation, the group might revert in color.

A critical point is reached when those in the group can only reproduce with each other, not from other groups, which indicates they have become a different species.

If the group migrates to where others without the change live, unless their change gives them a survival advantage, giving them an advantage over different group enough to replace them, the selection is not successful.

A successful mutation is ruthless in killing off those without the mutation, which is why most of them fail.


41 posted on 09/30/2022 2:25:45 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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