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So we create a new telescope that is supposed to prove that those smarter than everyone else is right. Then they get it up and running, just to learn that their pie in the sky ideas are no more logical than the ones that claim we came from apes.

Here is an idea, why not follow the evidence where it takes you, instead of trying to prove an idiotic idea is right?

You know, it's like stop trying to convince yourself that man is responsible for changing the weather.

1 posted on 09/15/2022 12:56:44 PM PDT by OneVike
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You seem pissed off.
First you were hating on some old lady from England and now this.
Are you on some medication or recently stopped some medication?
Do you have family or friends that could maybe look in on you?
Are there some county facilities that you could maybe check into?


2 posted on 09/15/2022 1:01:09 PM PDT by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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These guys are getting closer to what I’ve long thot. The whole place is too big for one “bang.” And the directions of the blast don’t match. I think it’s all more like a pot of popcorn with bunches of galactic stuff blowing, congealing, then blowing again. And Einstein said light could bend in an arc meaning we could be looking at ourselves from a long time ago. Gives meaning to “have we met before.?”


3 posted on 09/15/2022 1:06:06 PM PDT by OldWarBaby
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4 posted on 09/15/2022 1:07:27 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To me, this seems to indicate that the universe is infinite in size.


5 posted on 09/15/2022 1:11:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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I don’t have endurance to run down every rabbit trail cosmologists propose. Instead, I propose that the first stars were not made of Hydrogen, they were made of ice.

???? Ice = H2O

6 posted on 09/15/2022 1:12:43 PM PDT by pfflier
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Big Bang theory has been “dead” for many years. We created “Dark Matter” and “Dark Energy” to prop it up like a Weekend at Bernie’s.

Now we keep NOT finding additional matter/energy in our universe that is absolutely required for the math of a big bang to work...The hope after building each new generation of telescopes (optical or radio) is that NOW we will find it....

What we saw with the JWSP is...........same old same old, just at a higher resolution. Nowhere near the new vistas of matter we needed to justify continued belief in the BB.

Moral: when you create a theory that DOES NOT fit the existing observational facts (i.e. amount of matter in the universe) hoping new things will turn up - when they don’t your theory deflates like a souffle taken out of the oven too early :)


7 posted on 09/15/2022 1:12:45 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

They'd be better off searching for God instead.

9 posted on 09/15/2022 1:15:19 PM PDT by Bullish (Rot'sa Ruck America. )
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Have they ever figured out where this supposed “big bang” began? Shouldn’t we know where the center of the universe is by simply working backwards from where the universe has expanded to by now?


11 posted on 09/15/2022 1:19:03 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Gay marriage is neither. Democrats are the party of sore losers and pedophiles.)
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bkmk


13 posted on 09/15/2022 1:21:03 PM PDT by sbnsd
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‘In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.” Terry Pratchett


15 posted on 09/15/2022 1:27:09 PM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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That’s what they’re doing. Unfortunately right now that puts them in the “now what” phase. There’s not a lot of good evidence for something else, so they gotta go back and review and look for new hotness.


17 posted on 09/15/2022 1:31:32 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Alan Harvey Guth is not impressed enough to remain awake.


18 posted on 09/15/2022 1:34:09 PM PDT by BraveMan
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“Here is an idea, why not follow the evidence where it takes you, instead of trying to prove an idiotic idea is right?”

You no nothing about scientific research.


19 posted on 09/15/2022 1:34:25 PM PDT by TexasGator ( Gator in Florids)
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That’s what they’re doing. Unfortunately right now that puts them in the “now what” phase. There’s not a lot of good evidence for something else, so they gotta go back and review and look for new hotness.


23 posted on 09/15/2022 1:42:54 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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The big bang theory..
First there was nothing..
Then it exploded?


25 posted on 09/15/2022 1:43:52 PM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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I actually posed this question to the cosmologist and author Sean Carroll who has written numerous peer reviewed scientific papers related to the early state of the Universe.

He was quite clear that none of the JWST images disprove or contradict the red shift evidence for the expansion of the Universe after 10E-30 seconds known as the “Big Bang”. This defines the start of Einstein’s General Relativity laws where all the photon energy that has ever been set the coefficients of the Hubble constant and the rate of expansion.

This article mistakenly conflates Alan Guth’s controversial hypothesis for the quantum inflationary period driven by the breaking of the inflaton symmetry prior to 10E-30 seconds with the actual beginning of the Standard Model (U0, SU(2), SU(3)) expansion.

As Dr. Carroll pointed out, all that the JWST images show is that the models of how the early Universe clumped may not be complete and need to be adjusted to reflect our new information.

The expansion of the Universe is well established with decades of peer reviewed scientific data. People who try to convince you otherwise are misleading you.


32 posted on 09/15/2022 1:53:07 PM PDT by Dave Wright
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Mrs. Clinton just tweeted: “What difference at this point does it make?”


34 posted on 09/15/2022 1:55:00 PM PDT by lee martell ( )
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So we create a new telescope that is supposed to prove that those smarter than everyone else is right.

False premise.

We've built a telescope that will help (is helping) people a whole lot smarter than you address questions they've been unable to answer with previous data.

Here is an idea, why not follow the evidence where it takes you,

If you think that's not what they do (are doing) you're even dumber than you look.

Seriously.

Grow up.

38 posted on 09/15/2022 1:56:20 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Ahhhhh, the onion of real scientific truth unfolds some more, leaving more questions than anyone knew to even ask before, and shattering how complete older ideas were.

“Scientists” need to take a massive amount of humble pie, in every scientific discipline, and admit what is theorectical is not proof, just a theory, and should not be taken as proof, and then welcome all challanges.


42 posted on 09/15/2022 2:02:34 PM PDT by Wuli (uires )
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They should have seriously started rethinking the Big Bang when they had to kludge ‘inflation’ into it. My first thought years ago when I heard of ‘inflation’ was to imagine it as a magician waving his hands in the air to distract the audience.

I think it’s past time to admit that the standard cosmological theory doesn’t actually work at any scale, and start over.


43 posted on 09/15/2022 2:03:08 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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