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1 posted on 09/12/2022 8:46:31 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

What is The New Atlas?


2 posted on 09/12/2022 8:51:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Cathi

Ouch!

That’s going to leave a mark.

Thanks Cathi, for once again, providing the details that the GloboHomo World Wide Press refuses to print!


3 posted on 09/12/2022 8:51:42 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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Nice spin tactics. Ukraine hasn’t lost anywhere near that number.

Ruskies lost.


4 posted on 09/12/2022 8:54:00 AM PDT by Cronos
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A week ago Brian Berletic was announcing the imminent defeat of the Ukrainians and NATO at the hands of the triumphant Russian forces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTYVSJuCvqE

He was wrong.


6 posted on 09/12/2022 8:56:21 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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LOL

The Russian Federation may collapse.

Russian governments that lose wars don’t fare well.


9 posted on 09/12/2022 8:58:17 AM PDT by Reaganez
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I say again, that’s what it looks like to me as well, a gigantic Russian trap and the only surprise in the picture for Russians has been the sheer numbwer of hohos walking or rolling into it. I.E. Russians likely did not picture that many really stupid people in the hoho army. Same thing around Kherson but at least that was well away from the Russian border. Around Kharkov, the Russian airforce is just over a nearby border. This has to get ugly for the hohos and nato guys in a sort of a hurry.


11 posted on 09/12/2022 8:59:18 AM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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All Russia did in the war was expand its left/west side out some ways - to back off NATO, create a land bridge and solve some historical and potential strategic and resource problems.

Nobody anywhere has shown how that gets turned around. Whatever side you’re on, how do you “crowbar” an army with air and battlefield superiority back across their border? Russia just moved-in to territory their communists created 3 decades ago.

So Ukraine did a “bulge” type of offensive. Has anyone told them that Russia could turn everyone’s lights off - tomorrow - if they wanted?

They could also level Kiev. Just sayin’.


12 posted on 09/12/2022 8:59:20 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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The Russian strategy of enticing the Ukrainian army by abandoning territory it took months to capture and leaving most of its equipment behind is fascinating. I hope all our enemies in the future follow Russia’s example. 😂


13 posted on 09/12/2022 9:00:45 AM PDT by Rokke
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Yes, the more space Ukrain troops occupy, the more targets for Russian missles. Yet, the more missles Russia then needs. It forces Russia to try to retake space it thought it already held, space it once took at great expense.


14 posted on 09/12/2022 9:03:16 AM PDT by Wuli (uires )
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Yeah, I can imagine that NATO if panting down Zelensky’s neck to get him to get at least a marginal win here. Europe is eventually going to throw in the towel once it starts getting cold, and that’s only a month away.


15 posted on 09/12/2022 9:03:58 AM PDT by struggle
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Russia tried to run this war “on the cheap” - much like USA at the height of the “war on terror.” No mobilization, no draft. Just extend deployments, maximize use of “national guards” etc - spend a lot of money but don’t let it influence the daily life of the nation.

Russia also kept the war “limited” even in Ukraine. They left utilities on all over Ukraine, didn’t attack cities, as they expected to rule these people in the future.

both of these things seems to have stretched them very thin. They had to abandon Kharkov area when faced with massed Ukraine forces (who also took a severe beating - some estimates are 40K killed-wounded.)

Expect Russia to change its strategy. It will need to turn up the heat - a lot. Also expect the winter to be a hell for Ukrainian people. I imagine this is all playing into the hands of US deep state planners.


16 posted on 09/12/2022 9:05:47 AM PDT by PGR88
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Not sure the caparison works to WW II as the Soviets had many more human reserves and were receiving material aid from the US/UK via Murmansk to allow them to outproduce the Germans despite the technological edge the Germans had.

Russia does not have those reserves (in either vain) to make a final push by allowing the Ukrainians to expend assets on a broad front.

Infact I would say they are more like Germany in this case, limited military resources and limited manpower.

I understand both sides are bad actors, not taking any side here. Just looking at this via the warped lens this guy is is all.


17 posted on 09/12/2022 9:08:32 AM PDT by Reagan Disciple (Peace through Strength)
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I am skeptical about those who claim to possess pertinent intelligence information without knowing how it was attained. If the offensive was costly to the Ukraine I would expect it to be closely guarded and they’re motivated to protect it.


19 posted on 09/12/2022 9:10:12 AM PDT by Spok (Homelessness will not be solved by incentivizing it; it must be made harder, not easier.)
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The problem with this theory is that in the age of satellites and drones, the Ukrainians know where the Russians are all the time.

And the Russians didn’t just fall back, they abandoned tanks and artillery as they did.

Not saying the war is over, but there is no point in spinning this as a Russian win. It seems more to indicate that after months of facing a hard pounding, the Ukrainians are finding their footing. Better weapons have made a big difference, it’s allowed them to hollow out the Russian backfield in a way they couldn’t before.


22 posted on 09/12/2022 9:11:51 AM PDT by marron
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Whatever happened to the idea that the Ukraine war would be over after about a month after the Russian invasion?

Russia is close to losing 100,000 soldiers in the invasion, and likely, hundreds of billions in military equipment.

Ukrainians are ‘at home’, while the Russians are away from home and nowhere to go but back home, in body bags or suffering from injuries or just plain running away from the battle.

But, according to the report above, and the supporting FR members here, Ukraine is close to losing.

GMAMFB!!!

In ten years time, Ukraine will still be close to losing. Give Me Another Mother F Break!


23 posted on 09/12/2022 9:15:14 AM PDT by adorno
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Similar to a Fuhrer Directive, sAint Zel will issue a Piano Directive, which will force his fodder to hold the villages they have temporarily occupied at all costs.

This is where the Narrative War will backfire on the Ukies and the West [We have recaptured our TERRITORY!!].

It will accomplish the same thing that ground down the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front in WWII.

Of course, before the inevitable, the Ukie orcs [the Fighting Ukrukhai] will have time to do the Bucha thing on the unfortunate villagers in the temporarily occupied areas, and photograph their killing sprees to blame on the Russians.

27 posted on 09/12/2022 9:18:37 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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This report has elements of truth I am sure but to call this a withdrawal makes it sound orderly and by many accounts this was not. Equipment and ammunition left behind and not destroyed Yes they withdrew but it has the hallmarks of a rout. Whether the Ukrainians can hold onto these gains and make further advances time will tell. What seems to me to come from this will effect moral and may effect the whole Russian front. Looks like these troops were abandoned and left to their own means to “withdraw” and that is not a good image. One comment said that Russia has barely used their pinky in this operation. Perhaps but their losses appear to be much more and if Russia has this much trouble with a smaller nation what does that say about their military overall. Is it troops, logistics, strategy an/or leadership time will tell. The overall optic is not good.


29 posted on 09/12/2022 9:20:22 AM PDT by blitz128
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Y’all most be smoking some very good stuff !


37 posted on 09/12/2022 9:26:54 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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Hmm....

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Update for Russian military operations in Ukraine for September 12, 2022

- Ukraine has committed what is left of its best troops and equipment to multiple and expensive offensives - both around Kherson and in Kharkov, and rumors of offensives being prepared elsewhere;

- The Kherson offensive has failed, costing Ukraine multiple brigades’ worth of men and equipment with little territorial gain;

- The Kharkov offensive has cost Ukraine a large amount of men and equipment with significant territorial gains but failed to eliminate the Russian forces holding the region;

- Russia’s decision to withdraw from Kharkov conserves men and equipment for fighting later on and to be determined on Russian terms;

- There will be a significant strategic cost for Ukraine’s tactical gains - some of which are already being paid along the line of contact where Ukrainian lines have been weakened as Kiev cobbled together these offensive forces;

- There are significant parallels between this Ukrainian push and Germany’s Ardennes Offensive in 1944;

- Russia is targeting Ukrainian infrastructure including communication towers and power plants for the first time amid its military operations, signalling a possible escalation; “


39 posted on 09/12/2022 9:32:23 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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Gen George Patton DID say, (and I paraphrase) to Eisenhower in a 19 Dec 44 conference at Verdun; when he realized the true extent and objective of the German Ardennes counter-offensive that “Hell, let’s have the guts to let the sons of bitches go all the way to Paris. Then we’ll really cut ’em up and chew ’em up.”

Needless to say, this idea was deemed to be politically unacceptable.


40 posted on 09/12/2022 9:32:24 AM PDT by DMZFrank
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