Posted on 09/12/2022 8:46:31 AM PDT by Cathi
Latest update from The New Atlas focusing on the realities of Ukraine's recent tactical victory vs. the enormous structural cost that likely leads to speeding up to Ukraine's eventual strategic failure.
Ukraine lost 5-7 brigades (20,000 to 28,000 men) in just that short 10 day period of "counter offensive." Makes the interesting point that Russia's decision to withdraw eliminated Ukraine's ability to significantly reduce Russia's manpower or weaponry. By enticing Ukraine to come out of their covered defensive positions and into the open it has provided an easier target for Russia to attack by air and artillery Ukraine's stretched out thin forces in Kharkov which is what Russia is now doing.
Interesting clips of WW11 documentary of Hiltler's similar attempt to throw everything into a last ditch effort to get a success and how it actually resulted in speeding up his defeat.
Very enjoyable to get to see the WW11 clips.
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Ouch!
That’s going to leave a mark.
Thanks Cathi, for once again, providing the details that the GloboHomo World Wide Press refuses to print!
Nice spin tactics. Ukraine hasn’t lost anywhere near that number.
Ruskies lost.
Guy gives a fairly good straightforward analysis most times.
A week ago Brian Berletic was announcing the imminent defeat of the Ukrainians and NATO at the hands of the triumphant Russian forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTYVSJuCvqE
He was wrong.
‘Spin’ is relative to user due to one’s inherent biases yes?
You either disagree with said analysis or disagree then move on.
See how that works?
Easy peasy.
And people are only human yes?
We make mistakes, misjudgments, etc.
If we all judged as you do, no one would believe anyone!
LOL
The Russian Federation may collapse.
Russian governments that lose wars don’t fare well.
Ruskies lost.
Yeah. Their spin tactics remind me of:
Marty: The last time Tap toured America, they where, uh, booked into 10,000 seat arenas, and 15,000 seat venues, and it seems that now, on their current tour they're being booked into 1,200 seat arenas, 1,500 seat arenas, and uh I was just wondering, does this mean uh...the popularity of the group is waning?
Ian: Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no...no, no, not at all. I, I, I just think that the.. uh.. their appeal is becoming more selective.
I say again, that’s what it looks like to me as well, a gigantic Russian trap and the only surprise in the picture for Russians has been the sheer numbwer of hohos walking or rolling into it. I.E. Russians likely did not picture that many really stupid people in the hoho army. Same thing around Kherson but at least that was well away from the Russian border. Around Kharkov, the Russian airforce is just over a nearby border. This has to get ugly for the hohos and nato guys in a sort of a hurry.
All Russia did in the war was expand its left/west side out some ways - to back off NATO, create a land bridge and solve some historical and potential strategic and resource problems.
Nobody anywhere has shown how that gets turned around. Whatever side you’re on, how do you “crowbar” an army with air and battlefield superiority back across their border? Russia just moved-in to territory their communists created 3 decades ago.
So Ukraine did a “bulge” type of offensive. Has anyone told them that Russia could turn everyone’s lights off - tomorrow - if they wanted?
They could also level Kiev. Just sayin’.
The Russian strategy of enticing the Ukrainian army by abandoning territory it took months to capture and leaving most of its equipment behind is fascinating. I hope all our enemies in the future follow Russia’s example. 😂
Yes, the more space Ukrain troops occupy, the more targets for Russian missles. Yet, the more missles Russia then needs. It forces Russia to try to retake space it thought it already held, space it once took at great expense.
Yeah, I can imagine that NATO if panting down Zelensky’s neck to get him to get at least a marginal win here. Europe is eventually going to throw in the towel once it starts getting cold, and that’s only a month away.
Russia tried to run this war “on the cheap” - much like USA at the height of the “war on terror.” No mobilization, no draft. Just extend deployments, maximize use of “national guards” etc - spend a lot of money but don’t let it influence the daily life of the nation.
Russia also kept the war “limited” even in Ukraine. They left utilities on all over Ukraine, didn’t attack cities, as they expected to rule these people in the future.
both of these things seems to have stretched them very thin. They had to abandon Kharkov area when faced with massed Ukraine forces (who also took a severe beating - some estimates are 40K killed-wounded.)
Expect Russia to change its strategy. It will need to turn up the heat - a lot. Also expect the winter to be a hell for Ukrainian people. I imagine this is all playing into the hands of US deep state planners.
Not sure the caparison works to WW II as the Soviets had many more human reserves and were receiving material aid from the US/UK via Murmansk to allow them to outproduce the Germans despite the technological edge the Germans had.
Russia does not have those reserves (in either vain) to make a final push by allowing the Ukrainians to expend assets on a broad front.
Infact I would say they are more like Germany in this case, limited military resources and limited manpower.
I understand both sides are bad actors, not taking any side here. Just looking at this via the warped lens this guy is is all.
You either disagree with said analysis or disagree then move on.
See how that works?
Easy peasy.
Yeah, the analysis that retreats under fire are 'winning' is garbage analysis.
See how that works?
Easy peasy.
I still want to hear from a Russian fanboy what the excuse will be for losing Kherson. They better hurry if they're going to do it without the Kremlin talking points.
I am skeptical about those who claim to possess pertinent intelligence information without knowing how it was attained. If the offensive was costly to the Ukraine I would expect it to be closely guarded and they’re motivated to protect it.
Yeah, terrorizing their neighbors with nukes is about the only card those losers have left to play. Their conventional military has proven to be a joke.
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