Posted on 09/03/2022 7:21:52 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods
Once the full scale of Ukrainian losses in their counter offensive becomes widely known, the political divisions within the Zelensky government are likely to grow. There is a video online in Ukrainian with a Ukrianian General stating that Ukrainian losses are “hundreds of thousands.” This is a fact that will not remain hidden and will add to the turmoil swirling around Zelensky. How long will the Ukrainian people continue to support a policy where their husbands and sons are being used as cannon fodder? That is a critical indicator to monitor during September.
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Looks like they broke through the Russian lines in one or two places. It may come down to who has more reserves in the immediate vicinity: Ukraine to exploit the penetration or Russia to plug it.
‘Ukrainian general estimates Kiev’s losses at hundreds of thousands since Feb’
https://tass.com/politics/1501881
A leaked intercept from within Ukraine from individuals within the Ukrainian General Staff revealed such numbers as well.
UKR/RUS war is Biden’s “SQUIRREL.” When the November elections are over this nonsense of supporting UKR will probably stop.
The leaked intercept put numbers at 191K+.
I can't find an estimate for the Ukrainians. They had the advantage in defending Kyiv. But that defender advantage disappeared once the war shifted over to the Donbass and Kherson. So I'll say it's around 40k dead for Ukraine.
Hundreds of thousands seems a bit unlikely.
It is apparent that the offensive failed, though.
Agreed maybe if you include civilians killed and injured by mass artillery by Russians but as I recall Ukraine had in the vicinity of 3-400000 total in military. If these numbers were true there would be next nothing left esp to go on offensive first thing to go is the truth
Denys Davydov is in Ukraine, he does a good job, not perfect but he works hard. Update from Ukraine | We have the Tactical Advantage | Russia is losing it. 517,281 views
Sept. 2, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mz1s3QJMd8
I found Ukrainian troop number listed as 780,000.
Russian casualties in Ukraine. Mediazona count, updated
https://en.zona.media/article/2022/05/20/casualties_eng
I have been reading the positive reports from Ukraine for several weeks now, but reading between the lines my old Military instincts tell me a Russian victory is inevitable although the timetable remains a question.
Ukrainian casualties (dead and wounded) over the last 3 days of Ukraine Kherson “counter offensive” are approximately 8,000 (over 3,000 killed; 5,000 wounded.)
⚡️BREAKING NEWS⚡️
Ukrainian ATTEMPT at offensive
(https://t.me/IntelRepublic/4101) in Nikolaev-Krivoy Rog, South Ukraine, and other directions continues with Kiev’s troop suffering SIGNIFICANT losses, these actions were planned by Zelensky’s office to create ILLUSION of ability of Ukrainian military to conduct OFFENSIVES - Russian Defense Minister Shoigu.
⚡️UPDATE: Peski, Donetsk region under Russian-led control, Russian forces have reached administrative border of Nikolaev region, South Ukraine, 3 THOUSAND foreign mercenaries have been killed since start of special operation - Shoigu.
General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Kryvonos: Losses of Ukraine in the battle with Russia amount to hundreds of thousands of people.
This was stated by the former deputy head of the Security Council of Ukraine and ex-deputy commander of the MTR of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Major General Serhiy Krivonos, on the air of the UMN channel.
A. Shariy: “General Krivonos: Ukraine’s losses in the war against Russia already number in the hundreds of thousands of dead. It’s not for nothing that Zelensky opened a criminal case against him, you see, he got into a conversation...”
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https://tass.com/politics/1501881
MILITARY OPERATION IN UKRAINE2 SEP, 10:53
Ukrainian general estimates Kiev’s losses at hundreds of thousands since Feb
Sergey Krivonos predicts that the Ukrainians “will soon start asking the authorities why such colossal sacrifices were made”
KIEV, September 2. /TASS/. Ukraine’s losses sustained during Russia’s special military operation are estimated at hundreds of thousands, according to the former deputy commander of Ukraine’s Special Operations Forces, ex-deputy secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, General Sergey Krivonos.
“[We have] the right to say to the authorities: ‘Why haven’t you done anything? Why hundreds of thousands are dead? What did they die for? What have you done to save their lives? All speculations to the effect this is untimely are an attempt to blur the memory and to erase history. What can erase the blood of the dead, who already number hundreds of thousands? Who will be responsible for this?’” Krivonos said on the Ukrainian Media Network on the YouTube channel on Friday.
He predicts that the Ukrainians “will soon start asking the authorities why such colossal sacrifices were made.”
In early August, an adviser to the head of the Ukrainian presidential office Mikhail Podolyak, said that Ukraine was losing 30-50 soldiers a day, in contrast to the daily losses of 100-200 killed before. According to the chief of the parliamentary faction of the ruling Servant of the People party, David Arakhamia, the Ukrainian army was losing 200-500 a day.
On July 15, Ukrainian Defense Minister Alexey Reznikov said that the Ukrainian army’s losses had peaked in May, when it was losing up to 100 people killed and 300-400 wounded per day. At the same time, the Defense Ministry has stated that its losses in manpower were a state secret not to be disclosed during martial law.
State Bureau of Investigation shares details of case involving retired General Krivonos
The State Bureau of Investigation has opened a criminal case against retired Major General Serhiy Krivonos connected to the looting of Kyiv (Zhulyany) airport during its defense from invading Russian forces.
General Krivonos is accused of violating Part 5 of Art. 426−1 (excess of power or authority by a military official) of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. At the same time, the State Bureau of Investigation insists that they aren’t going to prosecute serving Ukrainian soldiers.
Ukraine’s General Staff said at the time of the alleged offenses, General Krivonos was not a serving member of the armed forces, but a volunteer.
According to journalist Yurii Butusov, a note has been sent to the military headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the front about the initiation of a criminal case against Krivonos.
“Investigators are investigating possible illegal actions of Krivonos and asking the military if there are any witnesses to these illegal actions during the defense of Kyiv,” Butusov wrote on Facebook.
“The distribution of this note, the text of which I am publishing, caused a great stir in the army.”
Earlier, Krivonos said that a case of “illegal” defense of the airport was allegedly fabricated against him by order of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy in order to dismiss him from military service.
“Yes, indeed, on Aug. 2, a criminal case was opened against me by the State Bureau of Investigation,” the general said.
“I received an order signed personally by the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valerii Zaluzhny, appointing me as the commander of the defense of the Zhulyany airport and enlisting me in military service. (However) the investigators were instructed to consider that order illegal.”
“So, this fabricated case was initiated, alleging that I issued illegal orders when organizing the defense of the Zhulyany airport in February-March. The senior leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine told me frankly that Supreme Commander Volodymyr Zelensky issued an illegal order to cancel my enlistment in the military service in order to prevent Valerii Zaluzny from appointing me to senior positions, since Zelenskyy considers me a political opponent.”
The General Staff confirmed that Krivonos had been appointed by Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the specified position, however, they said that he was not restored to military service, but was only a “volunteer.”
The General Staff also noted that after the liberation of Kyiv Oblast from invading Russian forces, Zhulyany airport came under the protection of Territorial Defense units, and Krivonos was “released from providing defense assistance.”
Krivonos’s public statements against Zelenskyy and the State Security Bureau “do not correspond to reality and are looks like attempts to discredit the highest military-political leadership of the state, which is unacceptable during the legal regime of martial law, the General Staff said.
The State Bureau of Investigation claims that this case is not directly related to the defense of the airport.
“Considering Russia’s military aggression against Ukraine, it is very important to check the facts before spreading messages like “a case was opened against the general for protecting the airport.” the agency stressed. “The State Bureau of Investigation has not been and will not be engaged in the persecution of the military, devotedly defending the Motherland, but will resolutely suppress the attempts of some individuals to cash in on the war.”
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In fact, the ex-deputy secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, ex-first deputy commander of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Serhiy Krivonos, who said that Ukraine lost hundreds of thousands of dead in hostilities , revealed the “secret of Polichenel.”
It was the colossal losses of the military that forced Bankova to launch a case, negatively accepted by society, to mobilize women and people with disabilities , as well as massively bombard Ukrainians with subpoenas . Of course, the authorities are silent about losses at the front, except that they pushed the increasingly popular Zaluzny to voice a deliberately underestimated figure of 9,000 dead military personnel, so that later, at a convenient moment, “set the dogs loose” on the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, “
Well, those who are trying to convey objective information to the Ukrainians from the front may well count on criminal prosecution, real terms, or even worse.
Krivonos was no exception - the SBI has already opened a criminal case against him for his orders in organizing the defense of the Zhuliany airport, and Zelensky criticized the general for “commenting on the actions of the military command.”
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In the war with the Russian Federation, Ukraine lost hundreds of thousands of people. This was stated by the ex-deputy secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, ex-first deputy commander of the Special Operations Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Serhiy Krivonos.
“I clearly understand that the fact that we survived in February, March and April is just not because ...
Same article without all the GWP tracking cookies and spam
https://sonar21.com/ukraine-does-damage-control-as-counter-attack-falters/
Yes, the thing about good propaganda is that it needs some underlying plausibility. Maybe a mistranslation of hundreds and thousands. Combined US and German losses in the Battle of the Bulge were under 200,000 with losses about equal on both sides. And that was for the full battle.
Learning about WWI, it was staggering when you realize how many men would die in battles, even in battles nobody even knows about, especially on the Russian side.
So says TASS, eh?
Disprove it, Nazi Supporter.
You’re asking me to prove a negative, Comrade Cranked?
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