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Study Challenges Views On What Drove Major Changes In Ancient Greek Society On Crete
Heritage Daily ^ | August 24, 2022 | McMaster University

Posted on 08/28/2022 7:15:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

3,500 years ago, the island underwent a period of significant cultural transformations, namely the adoption of a new language and economic system, and major changes in burial customs and attire.

Around the same time, many important sites across the island were destroyed and warriors’ graves appeared at the famed palace of Knossos, leading scholars to long believe that these seismic changes had been the result of a Mycenaean invasion...

Rather than looking at things like burial, art, or dress, practices that tend to shift with fashion, archaeologists have begun to look more closely at more mundane, everyday practices as a better insight to a culture’s true character, he explains.

For the study, the researchers analysed a sample of tools the Bronze Age Cretans fashioned from obsidian, a black volcanic glass. Using a nuclear reactor to determine the origin of the raw materials, they found that the obsidian tools originated from the Cycladic Island of Melos.

When these results were considered, along with the manufacturing method used for making the tools, it was clear that the community had lived the same way that their predecessors had for the past thousand years, which continued to be distinct from life on the Greek mainland.

“Our analysis suggests the population had largely remained local, of Minoan descent. This is not to say an invasion of Crete didn’t occur, but that the political situation across the rest of the island at this time was more complex than previously believed, with significant demographic continuity in many areas,” said Carter.

The researchers believe, that while local elites were strategically aligned with Mycenaean powers, as evidenced by their conspicuous adoption of mainland styles of dress, drinking, and burial, but most people also continued to live their lives in much the same way...

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; bronzeage; catastrophism; crete; godsgravesglyphs; lineara; linearb; minoan; minoans; mycenaean; mycenaeans; obsidian; tarshish
Subtitled "An Analysis Of Tools On The Island Of Crete Is Challenging The Long-Held Beliefs About What Drove Major Changes In Ancient Greek Society, According To A Paper Published In The Journal Plos One By Tristan Carter And Vassilis Kilikoglou."

1 posted on 08/28/2022 7:15:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AnalogReigns; AndrewC; aragorn; ...
One of *those* topics.


[snip] A chronology with centuries that never occurred made necessary the introduction of “Dark Ages” between the Mycenaean and the Hellenic periods in Greece. Thus the shortening of Egyptian history by the elimination of phantom centuries must have as a consequence the shortening of Mycenaean-Greek history by the same length of time. [/snip]
The Dark Age of Greece: The Reconstruction of Ancient History

2 posted on 08/28/2022 7:21:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
A pretty GGGood day!

3 posted on 08/28/2022 7:23:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

4 posted on 08/28/2022 7:36:58 PM PDT by algore
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To: All

Legend has it that the nations agreed to treat Crete fairly. Which led to the saying “You shouldn’t Con Crete.”


5 posted on 08/28/2022 7:41:29 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Vote NOW!! to repeal the Second Law of Thermodynamics like your life depends on it.)
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To: algore
It's clear that, at some point, Minoan culture went to pot. /rimshot

6 posted on 08/28/2022 7:49:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BipolarBob

[sigh]

/rimshot!


7 posted on 08/28/2022 7:50:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Our analysis suggests the population had largely remained local, of Minoan descent. This is not to say an invasion of Crete didn’t occur, but that the political situation across the rest of the island at this time was more complex than previously believed, with significant demographic continuity in many areas,” said Carter.

The same can be said for France from 1940 to 44. Some outstanding films were made in France during that time and a few were even syndicated by the German UFA group for release across German controlled Europe.


9 posted on 08/28/2022 9:12:50 PM PDT by robowombat (Orth,He looks like the sex all y )
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To: SunkenCiv
They invented topless bull-jumping. I'd like to see that sport come back.


10 posted on 08/28/2022 9:20:04 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Randomly I remembered this explosive article

https://news.arizona.edu/story/dating-ancient-minoan-eruption-thera-using-tree-rings


11 posted on 08/28/2022 10:55:36 PM PDT by algore
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To: SunkenCiv

They were Cretans?.........................


12 posted on 08/29/2022 5:23:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: wafflehouse

📌


13 posted on 08/29/2022 8:08:18 AM PDT by wafflehouse ("there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon" -Alice's Restaurant Massacree)
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To: robowombat; SunkenCiv

Seems a bit like the Norman invasion.


14 posted on 08/29/2022 8:25:50 AM PDT by nicollo (arbitrary law is not rule of law)
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To: nicollo
Good analogy, imho. There are reenactors in Britain who regard the Battle of Hastings (a.k.a. the Battle of Senlac) as the death knell of England.

The British dynastic lines do indeed run back to Alfred the Great (many people, including this writer, are descended from A the G, most of us more than once), but a number of the British monarchs were foreign, didn't speak whatever was the current spoken English, and spent their reigns busting the asses of the common folk, as well as their dynastic rivals.

15 posted on 08/29/2022 7:12:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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used sources:

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https://www.biblio.com/search.php?stage=1&title=secret+of+crete


16 posted on 08/30/2022 7:45:30 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmyD09f85Eg


17 posted on 08/30/2022 7:50:41 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: algore
RC dating skews much older due to the overload of stable C12 (old, or "dead" carbon) in the soils.

Some of the rest of the Thera keyword, sorted:

18 posted on 08/30/2022 7:55:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

;^) Every time I hear that band, I just want to be sedated.


19 posted on 08/30/2022 7:57:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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