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Weekly Garden Thread - June 18-24, 2022 [The History of Beans Edition]
Junr 18, 2022 | Diana in WI/Greeneyes in Memoriam

Posted on 06/18/2022 4:30:46 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


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1 posted on 06/18/2022 4:30:46 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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Heirloom Spotlight: The History of Beans
by William Woys Weaver

There is probably no vegetable that evokes more loyalty from its collectors than the humble bean. The array of colors, shapes, and sizes is breathtaking, and to say that the choices for collectors are numerous would be mere understatement. Seed Savers Exchange has over 4,000 varieties in its collection, and that is not all of them. This huge diversity is the result of the very nature of the bean itself, its constant transformation from generation to generation, which results in new com­binations of color and a vast array of other genetic features.

The bean in early America was not so numerous, for as we move back in time, we discover that the functional uses of the bean took priority over many characteristics we look for today. With certain pole beans, for example, it was the ease of drying the pods and their storability over the winter that took priority over tenderness when fresh. For Native Americans, who tended to cat­egorize beans quite differently from Europeans, it was usefulness as a source of bean flour or adaptability in dumplings and hearth breads that received emphasis.

Of course, for the Native American, the bean was associated with religious ritual, and its col­ors held sacred meaning. It is tempting to imagine that the orange-and-maroon lima bean, a bean similar to one buried in the graves of the ancient peoples of Peru, moved up the continent through Mexico and into the land of the Hopi. It is equally tempting to suggest that this distant food of the Incas came to the Hopi with similar religious trappings. But in the case of beans, nature is constantly assembling and reassembling her creation in such a way that similar things often emerge in several places at the same time. Their relationship is not always direct.

The discovery of the New World bean and its many forms revolutionized world agriculture, yet for several centuries the scientific approach to this body of plants has been chaotic at best. At the very outset, Europeans began calling them fasiolius, the name previously used for cowpeas by the Greeks and Romans. This led to heated debates about the origin of the bean and whether or not it was from the Old World or the New. As long as Europeans thought American Indians were the Lost Tribes of Israel — an idea that survived into the nineteenth century — it was logi­cal to conclude that their foodstuffs also originated in the Middle East.

The oldest depiction of the common garden bean in a European work is thought to be a 1543 woodcut of a bush bean in the German herbal of Leonhart Fuchs. Later in the same century, in 1553, another German herbalist by the name of Georg Oelinger made a watercolor of a red pole bean that is probably related to the variety known today as frijoles rojos, or Montezuma Red. While this is a bush variety, it can also appear as a pole bean. One of the important lessons in under­standing beans and their evolution is to discard the myth that pole beans and bush beans repre­sent different species. Botanically speaking, the two are only extreme forms of the same thing. For every red pole bean there is — or can be — a corresponding bush form, not to mention a num­ber of intermediate types. All of the common garden beans, regardless of shape, color, or size, belong to the same species and therefore will readily cross with one another when conditions are right. Scientists have designated the genus into which our garden beans are now grouped as Phaseolus,the species being vulgaris.Lima and runner beans represent a separate species.

There have been various attempts since the eighteenth century to organize beans scientifically and provide them with logical nomenclature. It has not worked. Horticulturists still rely on rather unscientific ways to define beans. A pole bean is obviously one that climbs, but it can also be a “snap” bean (eaten as a green pod), a “shelly” bean (the green seeds are cooked like fresh peas), or a “dry” bean, its dry seeds soaked and prepared in recipes like Boston baked beans — a recipe, incidentally, originally prepared by the English with field peas or with horse beans. Beans are also further categorized by pod type. Wax beans are any sort with pods that ripen yellow. This yellowness has been tinkered with by breeders to create a whole group of beans that are so tender they can be eaten raw.

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https://www.motherearthnews.com/diy/history-of-beans-zb0z11zsch/


2 posted on 06/18/2022 4:33:12 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good morning.

Weird weather this week. First, blistering hot, and today, a high of mid-50’s.

But a great day for doing some outdoor work without heat stroke.

The garlic scapes are ready to harvest.

Already!

Got some tomatoes growing nicely..


3 posted on 06/18/2022 4:36:37 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: 4everontheRight; Augie; Apple Pan Dowdy; Aevery_Freeman; ApplegateRanch; ArtDodger; AloneInMass; ...

4 posted on 06/18/2022 4:36:54 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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beans, beans, beans, the more you eat the more you poot.


5 posted on 06/18/2022 4:46:00 AM PDT by deport
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beans, beans, beans, the more you eat the more you poot.


6 posted on 06/18/2022 4:46:01 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

I knew there was the risk of this juvenile mantra when I posted today’s subject.

*Rolleyes* ;)


7 posted on 06/18/2022 4:49:58 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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Hot weather. In the 90s all week. watering every other day. Tomatoes getting good size and I’m waiting patiently (I’m lying) for them to start ripening. Beets about ready to pull. Pepper plants doing good.


8 posted on 06/18/2022 4:51:22 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Where is Biden leading us and what's with the hand basket?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Should you report the deport or deport his retort?


9 posted on 06/18/2022 4:53:07 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Where is Biden leading us and what's with the hand basket?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Speaking of “snapping beans”…… have you ever made leather britches? You use a big needle and strong thread, and run the thread through the middle of whole string-beans. When you have a long string of them on the thread you tie it off and hang it in a dry place to let the beans dry. In the winter the Appalachian people would boil the beans to eat them. They taste like “leather britches”.

I did some to hang in our mountain log cabin just for fun and decoration. The grandkids thought it was fun and a good history lesson.

10 posted on 06/18/2022 4:53:31 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Growing Sweet Corn 🌽 in MD.

Last year tried seeds planted directly outside - chipmunks 🐿 ate all.

This year I started indoors and transplanted 8” - 12” stalks outside in mid May.

Over Waist high already.

Beats the : “Knee high by the Fourth of July” here in Michigan! (Currently visiting family in Michigan.)


11 posted on 06/18/2022 5:05:30 AM PDT by dakine
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

My current fav green bean is Pride of Vermont...bush variety, but it really wants a 4ft. trellis. This year I’ll dehydrate some and see what kind of leather britches they make. So far, I’m getting lettuce and radishes...2 weeks more for fresh green beans, 4 weeks (fingers crossed) ‘til tomatoes ripen. I have a deer-proof garden, but raccoons make growing corn impossible.


12 posted on 06/18/2022 5:15:58 AM PDT by ryderann
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I would walk down the path to the swing and sit with my grandmother while she shucked peas. The walkway was cool...an arbor covered with grape vines for 300 ft.

I later took my toddler daughter down the same path and we all sat on the swing.

For years, after my grandmother passed, I would go to the local farm market and pick peas.

Now I grow my own. I'm 78.

13 posted on 06/18/2022 5:16:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Our cool down has been shortened to two days. After that, back to mid-high 90s with Tues being 99. I’m pulling all the lettuce and brassicas today. Potato plants are just starting to go yellow and droopy.

Maters are hanging in there, likely because of my afternoon shade and fairly short sun days. I poked some 1/2” x 4’ fiberglass fence posts in the ground and tied them off but they’re getting close to being as tall as the posts so I’ll have to do something else. Most are in a straight line so I might try a wire above them with strings hanging down from it to hang them from - the lean and lower method.


14 posted on 06/18/2022 5:16:18 AM PDT by Pollard (If there's a question mark in the headline, the answer should always be No.)
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To: BipolarBob

LOL! Clever! :)


15 posted on 06/18/2022 5:19:52 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

I love that idea! I could see strings of those along with braided garlic. Useful and beautiful. :)


16 posted on 06/18/2022 5:20:57 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Unrelated to gardening, I had a dream 2 nights ago that my pick up truck was running horribly and in the dream I said to myself this is running like the Beverly hillbilly’s truck.

This morning my truck overheated.


17 posted on 06/18/2022 5:24:33 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (To you all, my loyal spell checkers....nothing but prospect and admiral nation.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

And that is so right!


18 posted on 06/18/2022 5:25:28 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Sacajaweau

At my other farm, the 400 acres or so surrounding me were commercial fields for the local canning company. They used a piece of my land as an easement to get machinery in and out, so I got to know the guys pretty well after living there for 25 years.

The years they grew peas were always my favorite, second only to sweet corn. I have shucked a LOT of peas too, LOL! The head guy who came by to check for ripeness would always give me a Heads Up and they would let me pick whatever I wanted a few days prior before they started harvesting. It was pretty awesome. :)

I always left the Lima Beans alone though, LOL!


19 posted on 06/18/2022 5:26:32 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Pollard; Qiviut

I’m pulling my salad greens, today. They won’t survive the upcoming 90’s we’ll be starting AGAIN on Monday. Yes, I know it’s SUMMER now, but we’ve HAD SUMMER since May! Ugh!

I’m going to plant Zinnia in their place, thanks to Qiviut and her love of Zinnias. :)


20 posted on 06/18/2022 5:29:23 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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