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The Hard to Swallow Answer about Mass Shootings (at least hard for liberals)
Self ^ | 6/8/22 | Self

Posted on 06/08/2022 5:55:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Most of the mass murderers have given plenty of signs that they are unstable, and many of them were known to the police/FBI to be people to be watched or taken in for mental health evaluations, yet they were not. And in several high profile cases, the police hid behind their vehicles while children were murdered. In Uvalde, they even arrested parents trying to save their own children. I am sure that some parents will try to sue the police for their inaction, but will ultimately lose because the Supreme Court has ruled multiple times that the police have no duty to protect you.

Ultimately, this shows that you cannot rely on the police or mental health personnel to stop them before they attack. So that leaves the individual citizen to stop them as soon as they can. People may not want to hear my words, but we need to make schools a hard target, just like we did with airports.

But instead of looking for weapons that people try to smuggle into schools, we should adopt an Israeii model of identifying potential threats and dealing with them BEFORE they are at the school door with a gun. There are millions of good veterans who have been trained in how to deal with active shooters and are not afraid to stand in the gap. But they should be the secondary level of protection.

Banning a certain type of firearm is not going to make this problem go away. Even banning ALL guns will not stop bad guys. Fellow gun enthusiasts and I like to point out how Hollywood gets guns wrong. But they are right in one area. Bad guys will always get guns. The largest mass murder of school children in US history did not involve guns at all. It was a bombing in 1927 where 44 people were murdered. In France a few of years ago a terrorist used a truck to murder 86 people and injure hundreds of others. Jim Jones used Kool-Aid to l=kill hundreds. The 911 terrorists used box cutters to kill thousands. Evil people will find a way to do evil things.

The answer is vigilance. As Thomas Jefferson once said, "The price for freedom is eternal vigilance."

See something, say something. And keep saying it until someone listens.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; massmurders; massshootings; secondamendment; vanity
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1 posted on 06/08/2022 5:55:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Police have no duty to protect you, but they do not have the right to stop you from saving the life of your child. I disagree, I believe the parents have a strong legal case.


2 posted on 06/08/2022 6:02:40 AM PDT by RKRider
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The problem with "...identifying potential threats..." in government run schools is government is would be the one determining what a "potential threat" is. It'd be like having Richard Scrushy or Bernie Maddoff be the one to determine who the accounting frauds are.

The rest of the ideas I'm for 100%.

4 posted on 06/08/2022 6:13:39 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ping jockey

That will be a deterrent. Just like when in Pulaski the KKK held a march every year on MLK’s birthday and the press would dutifully show up and give them free advertising. Yet about 25 years ago, the press decided not to show up. The result was that the march dwindled in a very sort time, no one showed up at all.


5 posted on 06/08/2022 6:14:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

98% of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones.

That should be a hint about how to stop them.


6 posted on 06/08/2022 6:15:14 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Contempt for pre-born human life breeds contempt for post-born human life.)
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To: Tell It Right

It is the average citizen who will be identifying potential threats. It will be up to law enforcement to investigate and DO THEIR DAMNED JOB!


7 posted on 06/08/2022 6:18:21 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Whatever system is put in place will be abused. Reporting potential shooters will have it’s own version of “swatting” much like red flag laws are used.

The fact that the carnage can be reduced by making sure are doors locked and stay locked and yet the adults in charge cannot make sure such a simple protocol is followed should tell you that more complicated laws and rules aimed at a miniscule proportion of the population will fail the same as locked door rules. Because people are human.

The real answer is rapid evacuation out the windows and have kids run like jackrabbits and allowing teachers to carry.


8 posted on 06/08/2022 6:40:59 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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Every reporting system has the potential to be abused. But the answer is not to ignore the threat until it comes shooting up the schoolhouse.


9 posted on 06/08/2022 6:42:50 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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10 posted on 06/08/2022 6:43:12 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

11 posted on 06/08/2022 6:44:48 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RKRider

“Police have no duty to protect you,”

That’s a technicality. Police are there to protect us. Why else do they exist?

I imagine the police get far more reports of wacko behavior than they have time to investigate, and I imagine that 99% of the wackos they do investigate are a waste of their time because the they are found to have broken no law so law enforcement can do nothing.


12 posted on 06/08/2022 7:27:21 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The Hard to Swallow Answer about Mass Shootings (at least hard for liberals)

The problem is that to libs, abnormal behavior is somehow "normal" to them.

13 posted on 06/08/2022 7:28:51 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Ultra MAGA!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

You want the authorities to do their jobs then get rid of sovereign immunity and qualified immunity. Make the authorities liable for their failures. Voila!


14 posted on 06/08/2022 7:35:12 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
But instead of looking for weapons that people try to smuggle into schools, we should adopt an Israeii model of identifying potential threats and dealing with them BEFORE they are at the school door with a gun.

And how would you do that?

15 posted on 06/08/2022 7:36:03 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I also like to point out that narcotics such as cocaine and heroin have been illegal for decades, yet you can get it on any street corner in America.

Criminals are actually in favor of taking guns away from law-abiding citizens. It gives them more of a sense of security in carrying out their crimes as they are less likely to have any "hero types" get in their way.

16 posted on 06/08/2022 7:40:27 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (3,215,368 active users on Truth Social)
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To: ping jockey

Good thought. Maybe we could get the media to agree to use something like Creepy McBozo for each of these crazies so they don’t have the attraction of their name going down in history.


17 posted on 06/08/2022 7:51:01 AM PDT by gnickgnack2 ( Another bad day for Trump, he only got seven major things accomplished .)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes we can be more vigilent in a number of ways, but the real prime cause is just plain evil itself, and the leading cause by which lives are broken and evil takes over is broken and fatherless families.

Nearly every mass shooter has a personal history reflecting that fact. The broken family is not the direct cause, which is evil itself. But evil looks for our vulnerable moments, our vulnerable conditions, our hate, fear, anger, anxiety, hurt, dejection, grief and then exploits those conditions to insert evil intentions in response to them. Protecting the family and keeping it in God’s embrace is to protect the family members from becoming vulnerable to evil exploiting them. The families that do that do not see their members become mass killers, and no availability of any kind of gun would change that.


19 posted on 06/08/2022 8:09:53 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: DoodleDawg

Profiling


20 posted on 06/08/2022 10:59:19 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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