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Experiments with quantum cause and effect reveal hidden nonclassicality
/physicsworld.com/ ^ | 26 May 2022 | Jessica Tucker

Posted on 05/26/2022 2:57:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Bell’s theorem states that no theory that incorporates local “hidden” variables can ever reproduce the correlations between measurement outcomes that quantum mechanics predicts. A similar result occurs in the theory of causal inference, where quantum systems likewise defy the rules of classical causal reasoning. The idea behind the causal inference approach is that while a statistical correlation between two variables can arise due to a direct causal relationship between them, the correlation may also contain the contribution of a hidden common cause.

[T]he researchers use a causal model (see image) in which the statistics of variable A influence those of variable B, either directly or by the action of a common source (called Λ) that connects the outcome of both variables even without the presence of a causal link between them. To distinguish between these two scenarios, the researchers perform an intervention on variable A that erases any external influences. This leaves the variable A under the experimenter’s complete control, making it possible to estimate the direct causal link between A and B.

Alternatively, by introducing an additional variable X that is independent of B and Λ, any observed correlations between variables A and B can be decomposed into conditional probabilities. These conditional probabilities place a lower bound on the degree of causal effect between the variables, making it possible to estimate the level of influence between A and B.

The researchers call this lower bound an instrumental inequality, and it is a classical constraint that (similar to the inequality that arises from Bell’s theorem) stems from imposing this causal structure on an experiment. As a result, the degree of quantum causal influence between variables A and B will be less than the minimum required for a classical system, allowing nonclassicality to be observed... even when no Bell inequality violated.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; physics; science; stringtheory
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1 posted on 05/26/2022 2:57:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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ping


2 posted on 05/26/2022 2:57:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Well, yeah.


3 posted on 05/26/2022 3:00:08 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: BenLurkin

I read about this in a book by Claude Upp, “I Taunted Schrödinger’s Cat”.


4 posted on 05/26/2022 3:02:47 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: BenLurkin
Experiments with quantum cause and effect reveal hidden nonclassicality

I hate when that happens....

5 posted on 05/26/2022 3:09:28 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: BenLurkin
Experiments with quantum cause and effect reveal hidden nonclassicality

That explains how Biden's votes doubled in the middle of the night when no one was counting.

6 posted on 05/26/2022 3:12:00 PM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is i)
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bttt


7 posted on 05/26/2022 3:15:42 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

can you explain this in layman’s terms?


8 posted on 05/26/2022 3:17:34 PM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: BenLurkin

I thought quantum mechanics was by definition non classical


9 posted on 05/26/2022 3:18:29 PM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: BenLurkin
by introducing an additional variable X that is independent of B and Λ, any observed correlations between variables A and B can be decomposed into conditional probabilities. These conditional probabilities place a lower bound on the degree of causal effect between the variables, making it possible to estimate the level of influence between A and B.

I can't tell you how many bar bets I've won because I knew that.

10 posted on 05/26/2022 3:19:27 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: LouieFisk

Another good book is “Antlers in the Tree” AKA “Who Goosed the Moose”.


11 posted on 05/26/2022 4:00:05 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Disobedience is the true foundation for freedom. The obedient must be slaves.)
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To: ckilmer

It’s all Greek to me.


12 posted on 05/26/2022 4:14:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

So, is the theory dead or alive?


13 posted on 05/26/2022 5:19:46 PM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: gitmo

Biden is both President and Not President at the same time.


14 posted on 05/26/2022 5:21:08 PM PDT by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: seowulf

Yes.


15 posted on 05/26/2022 5:25:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: gitmo

Finally, a reason to read & attempt to comprehend this post.


16 posted on 05/26/2022 9:15:15 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: ckilmer

The universe has the nasty habit of violating human “laws” that say what it is supposed to do.

However, if we howl at the top of our lungs, pound the table loudly and accuse it of being “hateful” and “extremist” it might learn to obey!


17 posted on 05/26/2022 9:23:26 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: BenLurkin; 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks BenLurkin.


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18 posted on 05/27/2022 7:53:47 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (The Demagogic Party is a collection of violent, rival street gangs.)
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To: BenLurkin

Disappointment takes adequate planning.


19 posted on 05/27/2022 9:29:42 AM PDT by Track9 (You are far too inquisitive not to be seduced…)
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To: Track9

Stochastic disgust


20 posted on 05/27/2022 11:24:41 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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