GOD IS MY PERMIT!........................
Posted on 03/30/2022 5:19:30 AM PDT by marktwain
In a recent article about the intricacies of passing a Constitutional Carry bill in Nebraska, it was noted people with a recognized permit to carry concealed in Nebraska was not required to register their handguns in Omaha, Nebraska. Omaha, specifically the Omaha Police Officer’s Association, was lobbying hard to keep the Omaha requirement of registration of handguns.
Under current Omaha regulations, people who do not have concealed carry permits which are valid in Nebraska, are required to register handguns in Omaha.
Commentator Jon Anderson of the Nebraska Firearms Owners Association noted:
Omaha ALREADY requires registration of all handguns possessed inside city limits UNLESS the possessor has a Concealed Handgun Permit (CHP holders are exempt from registration. This has been the norm for YEARS.
Commentator Russn8r replied:
No, they’re not. A concealed carry permit *is* registration! Extensive registration.
Both are correct, in a sense. CHP holders in Nebraska are not required to register any firearms, handguns, or long guns.
A concealed carry permit is a “registration” of a sort. It is registration showing the person who has the permit applied for and received a permit to carry a concealed handgun (in Nebraska or some other states) or weapon (in Arizona or some other states). Such “registration” has little significance because it does not tie the person registered to any particular handgun. It does not show the person registered owns a handgun. Numerous students in the concealed carry courses that I conducted in Arizona did not own guns.
This is a significant difference in the level of registration. Legally tying ownership of a particular firearm to a particular person is a stepping stone to confiscating guns from the population slowly, in increments. Registration of guns with particular owners, is, in effect, gun confiscation.
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Oddly, I’ve had a Connecticut carry permit for over 35 years but I still can’t carry a knife with a blade longer than 4” or a switchblade with a blade longer than about 1”
Basically, I can’t carry a common kitchen knife but a .454 casual? No problem
And yes, a permit is when the government steals your inherent rights and rents them back to you.
They sure as hell do in Massachusetts. Here you’ve gotta fill out 3 forms and wait 30 days for permission to take a pi$$ if you have an LTC.
See Post #3
The weapon is reported when purchased. The federal government just doesn’t have a requirement for nothing. The manufacturer often knows who bought weapons.
If you are required to have permit to purchase a handgun as in Cumberland Co, NC then the Sheriff has a record.
The CCC permist is just another way to tell who is legally known to handle a weapon in accordance with those laws of the jurisdiction and someone expected to act IAW the law.
GOD IS MY PERMIT!........................
“Such “registration” has little significance because it does not tie the person registered to any particular handgun. Numerous students in the concealed carry courses that I conducted in Arizona did not own guns”
Not sure I totally agree with that.
No it does not tie the person registered to any particular firearm and yes I’m sure some people probably do possess a CCW and not own a gun, but what it could do in my paranoid mind is give the fed gov a list to check in to who actually do possess firearms.
I suspect the major majority of people that bother to get CCW DO have a gun of some sort.
It is gun-owner registration.
With todays information gathering information ability.
Just commenting on this article could put you on a list.
Identifying you as pro firearm and possibly firearm owner.
Let along all the other information out there.
Excellent point! I've wondered on occasion whether it would be more of a 'red flag' to a potential totalitarian government, for an individual to be on a looooong list of possible/probable gun owners, or a short list of people with no credit card activity, no online purchases or forum activity, no concealed carry license, etc.
"Most states who issue carry permits do not require information about a particular firearm in order to issue the permit. There are a couple of exceptions."
It may have changed since I left New Mexico, but (IIRC) that State's concealed carry permit used to specify the type of handgun (revolver or auto pistol) as well as an approved caliber or range of calibers. Obviously, other States are likely to have unique provisions in their laws, also.
Thanks for another interesting article!
The bureaucrats in charge of compiling those lists look more impressive when the lists are longer. And they can make a case for expanded budgets with more staff when the lists are longer.
The folks tasked with enforcement actions like the shorter lists better. They don't have the staff to handle the workload anyway, and all the expansion goes to the headquarters departments that are making the lists. It pays better to brown-nose back at the central office. The enforcers are never going to catch up. They just pick a few cases at random from near the top of the list and work them as best they can.
BTW, the "short list" people with no past - are low-budget covert Government agents or people in the witness protection program.
You are on a list, guaranteed. You are in position 5,298,714. It may take them a while to get around to you.
I’ve had a WCL in Georgia for near 30 years. It’s a Weapons Carry License. That includes knives.
Given that I've been posting here for more than a few years (and a member of gun owners' groups, plus a former FFL), I'm likely farther up the list - maybe in position 529,871 or 52,987...
;>)
I wonder. Of the handguns recovered in Omaha related to a crime, how many are registered? How many of those were stolen?
“Omaha Police Officer’s Association, was lobbying hard to keep the Omaha requirement of registration of handguns.”
And why would they want that?
I said screw that...and carried without a "license".
I'm a clean cut guy...NEVER have been asked if I had a gun in the truck.
Then OK went CC.....and I was glad I did what I did.
Don't know about Omaha specifically, but in many jurisdictions there are fees associated with any type of permitting or registration. It may simply be a matter of tight law enforcement budgets, or "following the money"...
;>)
I have two close friends who have “gone dark” in the past couple years. They got rid of their cell phone accounts and started using burners. Cancelled their cable, internet, and landline services. Quit social media (including one of them on FR).
Both subsequently had visits from the FBI.
One was asked why he did this and he told the two polite FBI guys, “Because I suspected I was being monitored and now here you are!”
The FBI guys laughed, wished him a nice day and then left.
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She said she was 18!
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