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My 2 cents: On accusations of "hitler" and "Nazis" by both sides and propaganda stunt targeting oligarchs

Posted on 03/08/2022 5:11:21 AM PST by Conservat1

Anti-Oligarchs... - propaganda war

I just think that the Oligrach targeting, first by Biden, now by UK, is a political propaganda stunt to show something is done. It did not, does not have any affect on Putin who understands only force.

No boots!

Given all that, I was never 'for' any wars / boots on the ground.. I probably can dig out old emails before Iraq War which I was worried about...

Mercy!

I pray, prayed for peace and my heart goes out seeing innocent non combatant Ukranians hurt, killed, flee...

Nazis?

Are Ukrainians neo Nazis like Putin claims? Of course not. Yes, you have the Azov and there are some Neo Nazis there, abd percentage wise more than in Russia, but they are still a small fraction, and in 2019 even they lost big in elections.

Is Putin a "Hitler"? Of course not. He has no ideology / campaign to exterminate an entire creed, race or religion from the face of the earth (nor does he want to dominate the entire world, yet...). In fact, he has no ideology, but power and control. He uses even Islamic fascists Chechens - notorious for their immense cruelty / brutality.

Past

BTW, in the past, as in WW2, Ukrainians stand out of having a particulary active role, not just as collaborators with Nazi Germany but on their own seeking out Jews. And Ivan the Terrible in Treblinka is infamous.. Then again, many were kind and even helped Jews. And this inspiring story:
Nazis Bury Alive Old Jews and Ukrainians for Refusing to Inter Each Other, JTA, November 27, 1942. (pdf)

So-called "Human rights" organizations

These pseudo groups like HRW & Amnesty have long been hijacked for political agenda? Their restrained actions when Putin's planes leveled so many thousands/massacring Syrians... for instance.


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To: Conservat1

That’s the best thing to do. Pray for the innocent to be spared and the guilty to be brought to justice. Very effective a lot of the time. Not the fastest method, but gets the best result.


21 posted on 03/08/2022 5:53:04 AM PST by Scarlett156 (If you want my place at the table, you will have to eat what is on my plate. )
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To: protoconservative
Yeah Putin bad, Zelenskyy good. I see you are buying into the propaganda. Ukraine is a corrupt nation. Our involvement there so far has only increased that corruption.

This is not our fight, and we have no business being involved. It's been created by this administration to provide a distraction from Biden's failures.

Zelenskyy is a stooge for the One World Government, who has ties to Klaus Schwab, and is inspired by Trudeau, who he claims got him into politics, and this is who you think is worthy of our support?

22 posted on 03/08/2022 5:54:32 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Conservat1

I like to tell these budding young socialist that the term Nzi means “National Socialist”

Usually right after I get them to admit how much they love socialism


23 posted on 03/08/2022 5:55:25 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: Scarlett156

“That’s the best thing to do. Pray for the innocent to be spared and the guilty to be brought to justice. Very effective a lot of the time. Not the fastest method, but gets the best result.”

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I like what you said


24 posted on 03/08/2022 6:05:54 AM PST by Conservat1
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To: Conservat1
Then again I'll ask, why did you make the following statement?

Are Ukrainians neo Nazis like Putin claims? Of course not.

Perhaps if you had said the following, I would have agreed with you:

Are all Ukrainians neo Nazis like Putin claims? Of course not.

Because it's a real possibility that there may be neo-Nazi's within Ukraine, but it is highly unlikely that the entire citizenry of Ukraine are neo-Nazi's.

But then again, Putin never claimed that all Ukraine citizens are neo-Nazi's.

Bottom line here for me, is that Ukraine is not worth our national treasures of human blood or financial support. Ukraine is a corrupt nation, of which American involvement there has only increased the levels of corruption in Ukraine. Furthermore, Zelenskyy is not someone I care to support either, for he is a One World Government stooge who thinks Trudeau is inspiring. He claims Trudeau is the one who convinced him to go into politics, and he admires him (Trudeau). He also has ties to Klaus Schwab, which are all negatives making him unworthy of our support, in my opinion.

25 posted on 03/08/2022 6:12:57 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Conservat1

Well, I liked what you said! (Isn’t that strange????)


26 posted on 03/08/2022 6:48:20 AM PST by Scarlett156 (If you want my place at the table, you will have to eat what is on my plate. )
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To: HollyB
This is their attitude today

I had to slow it down to half speed and mute the whole thing.

So the Neo-NAZI guy says they now have more Javelins than any european country except possibly Britain and they are fighting because they are the only ones who will do the job that the West wants them to do.   And that even though there is a small percentage of them relative to the others they are fighting with, they are the ones with all of the military impetus to fight and kill, and without their existence the Ukrainian defense would be a gay parade.

That sounds like we understand the NAZIs were like in the Beer Hall Putsch, but we remember what eventually transpired after that.

27 posted on 03/08/2022 1:04:03 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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To: mac_truck

Of course. This is no secret. There are dozens of sources. Including msm. Now they are gas lighting us on the subject. We’ve been there /did that - how many times now?


28 posted on 03/08/2022 1:39:28 PM PST by HollyB
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To: Scarlett156

Bingo !


29 posted on 03/08/2022 1:40:54 PM PST by HollyB
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To: HollyB

*waits for bingo prize*

*loses patience*

SCREAMING FIT


30 posted on 03/08/2022 3:33:47 PM PST by Scarlett156 (If you want my place at the table, you will have to eat what is on my plate. )
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