Posted on 03/08/2022 5:11:21 AM PST by Conservat1
Anti-Oligarchs... - propaganda war
I just think that the Oligrach targeting, first by Biden, now by UK, is a political propaganda stunt to show something is done. It did not, does not have any affect on Putin who understands only force.
No boots!
Given all that, I was never 'for' any wars / boots on the ground.. I probably can dig out old emails before Iraq War which I was worried about...
Mercy!
I pray, prayed for peace and my heart goes out seeing innocent non combatant Ukranians hurt, killed, flee...
Nazis?
Are Ukrainians neo Nazis like Putin claims? Of course not. Yes, you have the Azov and there are some Neo Nazis there, abd percentage wise more than in Russia, but they are still a small fraction, and in 2019 even they lost big in elections.
Is Putin a "Hitler"? Of course not. He has no ideology / campaign to exterminate an entire creed, race or religion from the face of the earth (nor does he want to dominate the entire world, yet...). In fact, he has no ideology, but power and control. He uses even Islamic fascists Chechens - notorious for their immense cruelty / brutality.
Past
BTW, in the past, as in WW2, Ukrainians stand out of having a particulary active role, not just as collaborators with Nazi Germany but on their own seeking out Jews. And Ivan the Terrible in Treblinka is infamous.. Then again, many were kind and even helped Jews. And this inspiring story:
Nazis Bury Alive Old Jews and Ukrainians for Refusing to Inter Each Other, JTA, November 27, 1942. (pdf)
So-called "Human rights" organizations
These pseudo groups like HRW & Amnesty have long been hijacked for political agenda? Their restrained actions when Putin's planes leveled so many thousands/massacring Syrians... for instance.
Is this thread necessary for some reason?
Clarity
It makes sense. The Oligarch hysteria is definitely a stunt that has no effect and it makes people who fall into the class warfare trap feel good.
Neo-Nazi's are more likely within Ukraine that they are in Russia. Just sayin'.
“Neo-Nazi’s are more likely within Ukraine that they are in Russia. Just sayin’.”
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Absolutely.
“It makes sense. The Oligarch hysteria is definitely a stunt that has no effect and it makes people who fall into the class warfare trap feel good.”
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Exactly.
This is their attitude today
https://rumble.com/vw3g76-ukrainian-neo-nazi-on-the-record-feb-2022.html
Thanks for this clip.
Please let’s have more vanities like this from people who know nothing about the subject they are talking about insisting that this is how things are because it just seems right to them.
We all should read this and take it in, now Any nationalist against Russia is a Nazi. I don’t know in what other media Putin figured out this was an effective tactic.
It is 100% true, that there exists a group that uses the symbolism of the Nazis within Ukraine, and they fight on the eastern front. None of the members are germans, none follow the german national socialist party, that parties meeting stopped some 80 plus years ago. They are neither in power or widely supported, well at least before Putin invaded.
Currently the units with Nazi tendencies are in the fight of their lives in eastern Ukraine. At this point Putin is making them more attractive to be support by Ukrainians with zero remembering any suffering under the Nazis and 35% remembering the soviet state.
As my comment is a direct disagreement with your statement.
That is true too.
It’s like seeing the Crips and Bloods battling and instead of getting the h3ll out of there, you stand on the sidelines betting on the outcome and chatting about their fighting style or arguing about which one is “in the right.” Whoever does this is demonstrating that he doesn’t have enough real-life problems and could use some more.
YOU SHOULD NOT ROOT FOR EITHER SIDE. THEY ARE BOTH WRONG.
Especially if you’re sitting there yelling “Go, Crips! Beat those Bloods!” and your own house is under attack.
Not sure what you mean. But to make it clear, Neo Nazis are more in Ukraine than in Russia. Especially percentage wise. Proportionately.
Y W. I’ve been putting my insomnia to use.
I don’t “root,” it is why I pray.
From the horse’s mouth.
Interestingly 8-12% being neo nazis, some of whom have been integrated into government is the same percentage that Putin has said in interviews.
The Saker has the Q and A Putin gave with the Lady Pilots on International Women’s Day. I think he mentions it in that one, also.
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