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Progressives Who Want Joe Rogan Off Spotify Should Be Careful What They Wish For (Flying pigs alert)
Yahoo ^ | February 3, 2022 | Ben Burgis

Posted on 02/04/2022 5:59:54 AM PST by DoodleBob

...So should Spotify ban him and start cracking down on anything deemed to be “misinformation” by critics or company-employed fact-checkers? If you’re a socialist like me, or even if you just have political preferences that are substantially to the left of Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, I’d argue that advocating for escalated corporate censorship is playing with fire.

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Does the Joe Rogan Experience at times broadcast “bad” or “wrong” ideas to a massive audience? Undoubtedly it does. But there’s also subjectivity at play, and to ignore how such blurred lines for acceptable discourse could be weaponized against left-wing voices is a dangerous miscalculation.

Mainstream liberals have increasingly adopted the right-wing libertarian view that “free speech” only applies to actions carried out by the state, and that private businesses are free to censor as they please.

Many on the left have traditionally understood that ignoring the power wielded by private businesses, on the grounds that anything such they do is “voluntary,” is dangerously misguided.

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A common argument of late is that while people shouldn’t be censored for their “opinions,” it’s fine to censor them if they are objectively wrong about questions of “fact.”

The problem is that, in practice, all political disputes are at least partly disputes about facts....Realistically, it’s hard to imagine an intense political debate where the sides didn’t disagree about at least a few important facts. That means each side will always accuse the other of “misinformation.”

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Any progressive willing to weaken free speech norms for the sake of whatever positive impact shutting up Rogan might have in the short term, though, should think long and hard about how this movie is likely to end.

(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: benburgis; joerogan; neilyoung; rumble; spotify
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1 posted on 02/04/2022 5:59:54 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

“progressive willing to weaken free speech norms”

It’s part of obtaining power.


2 posted on 02/04/2022 6:03:02 AM PST by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: DoodleBob

There is a very, very dim light going off in Ben Burgis’s head.

Its a start, anyway.


3 posted on 02/04/2022 6:07:43 AM PST by skeeter
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To: DoodleBob

The problem with dealing with liberals when it comes to “truth” is they don’t believe truth is absolute....truth in their warped minds is whatever they want or need it to be at any given moment to support their argument.....always a moving target, which is one more indication that liberalism is a mental disorder.

Also, giving in to them should never be an option as it only emboldens them to push harder.


4 posted on 02/04/2022 6:07:52 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: DoodleBob

The left wants to ban all “misinformation”.

But in the same breath they don’t want to talk about all the things Fauci’s Nazis said that were factually incorrect and therefore “misinformation”.


5 posted on 02/04/2022 6:09:40 AM PST by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! A 70's)
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To: DoodleBob

Remember the addage: “One man’s poison is another man’s meat.”

This was born in the 1800’s, way before anybody thought “being offended was a way of life”.

In fact, it was accepted that if somebody said anything offensive within earshot of anotther being,the offending seaker was either demanded to say it to the offended’s face, and then be judged worthy of a broken nose, orlaughed at in their face, and walk off.

Now, would that not stop a lot of this whiney-butthurt, no balls crap going on today?


6 posted on 02/04/2022 6:10:57 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: DoodleBob

I had no idea who Rogan was, but after reading this guy’s article I’d never listen to Rogan. Wouldn’t ban him, though.


7 posted on 02/04/2022 6:11:49 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: DoodleBob

I’m sure that Fauci can go on to Rogan’s show for a 2 hour segment and correct this “misinformation” if he wants to.


8 posted on 02/04/2022 6:12:01 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: DoodleBob

This person argues the right answer for all the wrong reasons.


9 posted on 02/04/2022 6:18:43 AM PST by throwthebumsout
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10 posted on 02/04/2022 6:19:29 AM PST by mylife (Doreen caught me and Tish nekkid drinkin peach schnapps.... but she never squealed)
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Word on the street is that Gheorghe Zamfir is pulling his pan flute


11 posted on 02/04/2022 6:19:54 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: DoodleBob

Mainstream liberals have increasingly adopted the right-wing libertarian view that “free speech” only applies to actions carried out by the state, and that private businesses are free to censor as they please.

This only works in a non-fascist country. Once big corporations and big government are pieces of the same monstrosity running the country, you have corporatism or fascism.

Exhibit A: The CDC does what Pfizer wants.


12 posted on 02/04/2022 6:21:56 AM PST by Flick Lives (The CDC. Brought to you by Pfizer.)
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Spotify is not standing up to the cancellation crowd out of a sense of free speech. They are doing it for business reasons. They have a contract with Rogan and Rogan brings them lots of money and subscribers. Not once has the CEO defended Rogan using the argument of open discourse. Not once has the CEO argued that “misinformation” is a matter of perspective. Not once has the CEO argued that they shouldn’t treat their audience like a bunch of impressionable children.


13 posted on 02/04/2022 6:26:30 AM PST by throwthebumsout
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To: DoodleBob

We just ordered that old book When Pigs Can Fly, for our grandkids! Old book from 1980s.

Nelson


14 posted on 02/04/2022 6:27:04 AM PST by NEBO (When Government controls decisions for us we are being treated as less than a human being.)
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To: DoodleBob

A self proclaimed Socialist trying to justify his existence at Yahoo! Waste of time reading that crap.


15 posted on 02/04/2022 6:27:32 AM PST by MGunny ( )
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To: DoodleBob

Bkmk


16 posted on 02/04/2022 6:28:06 AM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad. Life is risk, your highness.)
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To: BookmanTheJanitor

Excellent suggestion!!!! He he he he ha ha ha Would be GREAT!

Nelson~


17 posted on 02/04/2022 6:28:51 AM PST by NEBO (When Government controls decisions for us we are being treated as less than a human being.)
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To: Gen.Blather
Rogan had Dr Peter McCullough and Dr Robert Malone on for TRUTHFUL interviews on Covid vax and the illness.... Very good interviews.
18 posted on 02/04/2022 6:30:25 AM PST by NEBO (When Government controls decisions for us we are being treated as less than a human being.)
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To: skeeter

He has at least one cylinder fired.


19 posted on 02/04/2022 6:33:21 AM PST by dforest (Freaking insane world. )
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To: DoodleBob

“If you’re a socialist like me”

Translation - I am a commie stooge


20 posted on 02/04/2022 6:37:21 AM PST by No Party Affiliation
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