Posted on 01/10/2022 7:48:04 AM PST by COBOL2Java
Great content in this. But myself? Rather have a .38 special in snubnose.
A shot is not fired in more than 98% of successful defensive gun uses, meaning that more than 98% of the time a mouse gun is as good as a cannon.
Fact: Guns prevent an estimated 2.5 million crimes a year or 6,849 every day. Most often, the gun is never fired and no blood (including the criminals) is shed.
Source: http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/7.1/Gun-Facts-7.1-screen.pdf, page 21.
Fact: A victim may have a strong reluctance to talk to a government agent about a firearm brandishing incident (which are 98% of DGUs) because they may not know the act was 100% legal.
Source: http://www.gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/7.1/Gun-Facts-7.1-screen.pdf, page 83.
Looks like a good beginners or woman’s learning piece.
I’ve had a 22 mag pistol (PMR30). It was without a doubt the LOUDEST gun I owned. Shot big flames and made a helluva noise. People on the range next to me would step back and look over at what was being shot.
Any gun is better than no gun...
That said, there are so many good compact defensive caliber (380, 9mm, 38SPL/357, 45, etc) guns available today, there is little reason to be using a .22 for defensive use. Not “no reason”, but little reason.
Some reasoning:
1) .22 is probably the least reliable, most likely to misfire, between rimfire and centerfire cartridges. Reliability would be my biggest issue.
2) Stopping power. Even after lethal hits, a threat may not be ‘stopped’ and may continue to attack not acknowledging he is minutes away from being a ghost. Larger caliber is more likely to address a threats forward “momentum”
No
Maybe .223 or .22-250
I carry my J-frames in either 38 special or 357 - the latter with an oversized rubber grip. But the only time I’ve pulled a gun in self-defense, it was my 22 LR. I had it with me for plinking purposes out hiking a long way from civilization. When I returned to my car, 8 guys were drinking whiskey while sitting on my car. As I got closer, they got off and started to spread out.
I pulled my 22 LR and held it at low-ready. If they rushed me, I’d have raised and fired in one motion, as I normally do when practicing. But...no one asked me the caliber. No one cared that I had 6 rounds to 8 of them. No one shouted, “8-6=2, let’s get him!”
They just stopped trying to surround me. I struggled to get my keys out of my right pocket with my left hand, then got in and started the car without putting my revolver away. Then drove off - and have spent the last 40 years carrying my car keys in my LEFT front pocket.
Even a 22 LR in the face can be devastating. Or the chest.
“Reagan was seriously wounded by a .22 Long Rifle bullet that ricocheted off the side of the presidential limousine and hit him in the left underarm, breaking a rib, puncturing a lung, and causing serious internal bleeding. He was close to death upon arrival at George Washington University Hospital but was stabilized in the emergency room...” - Wiki
And of course, a 44 magnum round might go thru muscle tissue and do nothing serious.
So I PREFER to carry my 357, or at least my 38 special. But a 22 of any size isn’t without some self-defense potential. Heck, all things being equal, I’d prefer to be carrying my Model 29 loaded with high power 44 specials...but all things aren’t equal.
I’ve considered getting one of the 12 oz J-frames in 22 as an easy to carry and accurate to shoot little revolver. Kind of expensive though and probably not as good as the Ruger LCP I already own.
Agree. I will stick with my Ruger LCPs. No need to change.
I would say no since the barrel is too short to get good bullet velocity.
The .22 mag is probably a nice carry for hiking. I’d have to check the Model but S&W makes one with a slightly longer barrel, Model 41 or something. I keep putting off getting a nice holster for mine. When I researched it they called it a rat gun.
I wouldn’t want to be down range of one. More powerful than a .22 long rifle and a .22 LR can kill you dead. It’s not a daisy red rider by any stretch.
Here is a Ruger LCR compared to a Sig 365 (via Handgunhero.com). Sig gives you 10+1 rounds of 9mm in a slightly smaller package, that only weighs a couple ounces more. There is an argument for the ultimate reliability of a revolver, but you give up a lot of firepower.
Same here. My carry gun is a snubnose Ultralite .38 Special.
I've got a couple of cowboy guns with swappable .22 LR / .22 WMR barrels. Switching over to the .22 WMR is definitely a lot louder.
The local concealed carry class requires a minimum of 38 S&W Special. It is taught by former policemen and sheriff’s deputies so it’s safe they know what they are talking about.
Sacrilege. Everyone knows that 22s just bounce off and the minimum self-defense caliber is 454 Casull.
I've got a couple of .22 WMRs, but I carry the LCP in my back pocket holster. My LC9s goes in my IWB holster.
We have a .22 mag stubby. 2 inch barrel 9 rounds. Older than the hills (High Standards Sentinel Mark IV). Shoots great.
I have an EAA Single Six with swap out cylinders 22/22mrf...Got rid of that plastic Keltec. Only problem now is that I have a thousand rounds of MRF that I’ll probably never shoot through it.
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