Posted on 11/21/2021 10:23:52 AM PST by simpson96
A Florida man was filmed as he lay on the floor in a Costco for eight minutes in protest after he was told to put on a face mask, as a pair of local sheriffs ask the maskless man to get off the floor and leave the premises.(snip)
'He said he would sue Costco and the police if they touched him,' the original filmer, who asked to remain anonymous, told Newsflare.(snip)
he got up and paid for his stuff at the self check out then the officer escorted him out.'
'Outside the manager was arguing with an officer that they should have not let him pay for his stuff' the person behind the camera added.(snip)
A woman dubbed 'Costco Karen' sat on the floor of the superstore, refusing to move while declaring 'I have constitutional rights!' after she was similarly asked to put on a face mask.(snip)
The woman had a face mask dangling from one ear but refused to put it on completely to cover her mouth.
'You just have to tell me that you have one. Well, then you have to wear it. You have to wear your mask in public. This is private property,' the female employee said in the video posted back on June 30, 2020.
'I am not a member of Costco,' the woman is heard snapping back.
'Want me to get that taken care of for you? Well, then you’re going to have to put your mask on,' the employee says.
'I will not,' the woman says curtly, adding the mask requirement is 'your problem'.
'Well then come back another time,' the employee says.
'I want to speak to your boss,' the outraged woman replies.
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Why, because some internet nerd said so and called it a law? People that quote 'Godwin's law' are well on the road to becoming those people who get in the rail cars. All they need to do now is say, 'bah'.
Now observe as I win this argument while breaking Godwin's fake law.
First, you have a right to patronize another store with different policies or to not patronize any of them at all. People had no choice on whether or not to be relocated to a death camp.
And tell me, Hitler. What do we do when all the stores do what the government tells them to do. Is starvation another way of fighting fascism?
People had no choice on whether or not to be relocated to a death camp.
I guess you missed the part about me saying there's always a choice. For example, I could have chosen to tell the Nazis to GFT when they showed up at my door in the first place and died right there. I could have chosen to let them shoot me down in the street for not wearing the yellow badge. I could have organized an underground guerilla cell and gone down in a blaze of righteous glory.
Or I coulda thrown a b*tch fit in the middle of Costco. So you see, rabbit. There are many choices to be made before one is herded into a death camp.
Secondly, you don't defeat fascism with fascism. You defeat it with a free people demanding their freedom and RESPECTING OTHER PEOPLES' FREEDOM.
Sorta like that Costco patriot did? I'll have to agree with you there. BTW, respecting fascism is not respecting other people's freedom. Its the opposite, in fact. Its respecting other people's squashing of freedom.
You defeat fascism by kicking it in it's ass. Ask Patton, he'll tell you. Say, didn't Neville Chamberlain 'respect other people's freedom'? Yes, I think he did.
If you don't know history, you're doomed to repeat it, my mama always said.
Let us hypothesize that you don't drink alcohol and do not approve of other people drinking alcohol. Let's then say I do like to have a drink from time to time (in moderation). You invite my family to your home for a barbecue. I bring a 6 pack of my favorite brew with me.
You are perfectly within your property rights to tell me to leave the beer in the car because you don't want your children exposed to it.
This is a fine example proving my point. ThankQ.
This was tried on a nationwide scale at one time in our history. We called it 'Prohibition'. 'Member? That was a form of fascism too, just like 'vax mandates'. But the people said GFY, government. We will not comply.
The people did not respect the 'property rights' of the government on this issue. Lives were lost in the conflict, as I recall.
Another. In 1776, the people did not respect the property rights of King George and told him to GFH. Again, lives were lost in the endeavor.
Some time later, the government this time, did not respect the property rights of slave states (other governments) and told them to GFT. More lives were lost in that conflict.
As you can see, your 'property rights' argument is falling apart. You do see that, right?
They are also forcing segregation in Austria, Germany, and, shortly, Italy and Croatia (how ironic is that??) Although it's scary and tragic, it's totally irrelevant.
How is it irrelevant? Its how people do unless they're checked, with force if necessary. And throwing fits in Costco is a first step.
You don't defeat fascism with fascism. You defeat fascism with freedom.
I refer you to the new law:
Patton's Law:
"You defeat fascism by kicking it in it's ass".
That is the law.
(see? I won the argument and while breaking Godwin's 'law').
#CostcoMan
Fair enough. So then the powers that be should zot me because I believe in property rights and that is not the conservative position.
Imagine being on FR for almost 20 years and finally being educated on that now.
No loss. I think I’ll just stick with my principals and enjoy my beach while the USDA burns to the ground.
You’re missing the point entirely.
I can be physically removed from a privately owned store - nobody is arguing that - but as long as I’m there, I can say what I want.
If a store owner is acting stupidly, the shoppers can tell him so, and express anger while doing so.
Then, if the shop owner has those shoppers removed, he will be proving their point.
But let’s give a more striking example. Let’s say passengers aboard a privately owned ferry crossing Lake Michigan begin a load and angry protest over the owner’s stupidity.
Can the owner silence them? Can the owner throw them in the brig? No. The most he can do is complete the journey and then refuse to do business with them in the future.
Property ownership has no bearing on the right to free speech.
Free speech is a patriotic position. You don't have to get everything wrong.
Imagine being on FR for almost 20 years and finally being educated on that now.
Imagine being wrong for 20 years. Its never too late to learn, grasshopper. Humble yourself.
No loss. I think I’ll just stick with my principals and enjoy my beach while the USDA burns to the ground.
You are not a monster. Some people would rather run and hide than fight.
p.s. Its principles.
#EnjoyYourBeach
Agree with you.
You are a good little sheep.
We don’t mask up, but then again live in the OC.
Correct. If stockholder enters and refuses BS mask…or paid member …they have right to object….
There are no property rights here…there is only The Bill of Rights you sheep!
Why don’t you take a stand instead of parsing a lot of BS? This man did God bless him! More need to step up and tell them NO and HELL NO!
You should take a civics class and learn that private property right begin with the person and not the business. A business has no special protections. People do.
There can be only one.
# I’ve given this some thought. (I’m retired, so I’ve got the time!) If I were in the Senate when this law was up for a vote, I think I’d scratch my head a bit, then vote in favor of the law.
OK, so you support the law itself. It has been shown that wearing these stupid masks increases your intake of CO2, which can cause many different problems. Anyone who wants to tell one of these businesses to stick their masks where the sun don’t shine is perfectl justified in doing so merely on the wording of the ADA itself. Back when the mask insanity was still prevalent here in Texas my response to any dufus wanting me to wear a mask was politely, but firmly informed ‘I am medically exempt’, and I went about my day. I don’t give a damn what the business or government wants when I’ve been provided such a poorly written and massively overbroad club with which to beat them with.
You’re incorrect. In this specific instance, the Bill of Rights generally has nothing to do with the jerk in Costco throwing a temper tantrum. The Bill of Rights is a check on power of the government, not a check on the power of Costco.
If he didn’t like Costco’s policies (even if mandated by the State), he could either protest off their property or don’t go there to shop. Instead, he drew attention to himself in an uncomplimentary way, and affected Costco’s “pursuit of happiness”.
Pretty sad the number of FReepers that think so poorly of private property rights.
Depends on what is said.
So I guess more and more FReepers are devolving into the mindset they can go in private property with the intent of disrupting a person’s “pursuit of happiness”.
Sort of like junior Antifa and BLM members, I suppose.
Boy, you're really stretching it, Ruth Bader-Ginsburg. I guess the Constitution means just what you want it to mean, hey?
No, dear. When business becomes a de facto arm of the government, that's called fascism. We don't tolerate fascism in this country and any Costco b*tch fit is not only justified, but required, not withstanding your sheeply desire to go along to get along and mollify the fascists.
You vaxtards' attempt to invoked private property rights is cowardly and irrelevant. But what can we expect from government leg humpers? The revolutionaries had a word for people like you, Furry.
Tories.
"Life, liberty, and property", was changed to "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" for a reason. They don't mean the same thing, or why change it in the first place? Why do you insist on trying to make them the same thing? Are you a founding father returned from the past?
Stop being an intellectual midget, Furry. We won't fall for your pretzel logic, my dear.
My pursuit of happiness requires that I not wear a mask, so in your comic book, its a tie. That puts us back to so-called property rights, and I have already educated you on that canard.
Have a nice day.
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