Posted on 11/21/2021 10:23:52 AM PST by simpson96
A Florida man was filmed as he lay on the floor in a Costco for eight minutes in protest after he was told to put on a face mask, as a pair of local sheriffs ask the maskless man to get off the floor and leave the premises.(snip)
'He said he would sue Costco and the police if they touched him,' the original filmer, who asked to remain anonymous, told Newsflare.(snip)
he got up and paid for his stuff at the self check out then the officer escorted him out.'
'Outside the manager was arguing with an officer that they should have not let him pay for his stuff' the person behind the camera added.(snip)
A woman dubbed 'Costco Karen' sat on the floor of the superstore, refusing to move while declaring 'I have constitutional rights!' after she was similarly asked to put on a face mask.(snip)
The woman had a face mask dangling from one ear but refused to put it on completely to cover her mouth.
'You just have to tell me that you have one. Well, then you have to wear it. You have to wear your mask in public. This is private property,' the female employee said in the video posted back on June 30, 2020.
'I am not a member of Costco,' the woman is heard snapping back.
'Want me to get that taken care of for you? Well, then you’re going to have to put your mask on,' the employee says.
'I will not,' the woman says curtly, adding the mask requirement is 'your problem'.
'Well then come back another time,' the employee says.
'I want to speak to your boss,' the outraged woman replies.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
> Regardless of property rights, or any other rights, stupidity should be called out. That’s what the first amendment is all about, which is another conservative value. <
The First Amendment is meant to protect you against government retaliation. It is not meant to protect you while on private property.
For example, you can stand on a public sidewalk and hold a “Biden is an idiot” sign all day long. No police officer or city employee can legally move you. You are protected by the 1A .
But if you go on private property, the 1A does not apply. The property owner can trespass you just for holding that sign. And if you don’t go, you can be legally arrested.
Haha. That's hilarious. A mask fgt calling US Karens.
Dude, you're a riot.
> So, there is no limit to businesses? No negros? No whites? No Jews? I bet you think there is a limit. <
Yes, legally there is a limit. You cannot deny service to an individual based on a protected class argument. For example, veteran status is a federal protected class. So no business can legally put up a sign saying “No veterans will be served”.
Race is another protected class. There are others.
Some conservatives think the whole “protected class” thing is too much of an infringement on property rights. I don’t quite buy that argument, but I do see some merit in it. So it’s a head scratcher for me.
To hell with COSTCO! I’ll never set foot in one again.
# Costco is a private business. It is also a membership-only site. So give the guy a choice: either put on a mask or we’ll cancel your membership and refund your membership fee in full.
Sorry. Property rights have not meant a damn thing in this country for decades. Both individuals are absolutely within their rights to refuse to wear a mask under the terms of the ADA, which, unlike these ‘mask mandates’, is actual law, passed by congress and signed by an actual president. It is even against the law for the business to ask =why= they can’t wear a mask.
Are you also going to try to claim that if they refuse to allow someone in a wheelchair access, that this is also fine because it is a private business?
It is a real principle of Internet discussion forums: if you have to bring up Nazis in an argument, you've lost the argument.
And the concentration camp analogy is a legitimate one
Hardly. For two reasons:
Do you also want to force the baker to bake the cake? Or force the florist to decorate the gay wedding?
Would you be in favor of a store prohibiting mask wear (and I'm not talking about for security reasons)?
And the concentration camp analogy is a legitimate one, considering they are building 'camps' for the unvaxxed in Australia. Mask mandates, vax passports, and a willing, docile, compliant populace is a hop, skip, and a jump from Nazi Germany.
They are also forcing segregation in Austria, Germany, and, shortly, Italy and Croatia (how ironic is that??)
Although it's scary and tragic, it's totally irrelevant.
You don't defeat fascism with fascism. You defeat fascism with freedom.
I won't board the train. I'm not in the USSA any longer.
But if I was, that's a specious example.
You want to be a fascist, knock yourself out.
> Are you also going to try to claim that if they refuse to allow someone in a wheelchair access, that this is also fine because it is a private business? <
No. The federal government has set up a number of protected classes. Handicap status is one of them. It is illegal to discriminate against a person solely because of their membership in a protected class..
I find much to like about this law. But as I noted in an earlier post, I’m not 100% on board because such laws do infringe on property rights.
I’ve given this some thought. (I’m retired, so I’ve got the time!) If I were in the Senate when this law was up for a vote, I think I’d scratch my head a bit, then vote in favor of the law.
LOL. There is no “argument” to be had here. Violent Marxists burn our cities and control our government thanks to the support of woke corporations like Costco.
I can assure Marxists do not care why you surrender. All they care about is that you are on your knees and submitting. But do have fun with your doctrinaire “private property” debates on your high horse perch.
Since I no longer live in the USSA nor in any socialist country in the West, it's not my issue.
But enjoy. I'll just continue to have fun while drinking my coffee, looking at this view out my front window, and shake my head at how far my prior residence has slipped.
What?????
Don’t touch just spray paint with pepper spray from head to foot & can someone show me were in the Constitution you have the right to be Typhoid Mary when asked politely to wear a sneeze guard so you don’t spew over everything!
Pretty mild for #FloridaMan.
I just did. It’s nice down here.
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