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To: bagster
You do realize that Godwin's law is not a real law, right?

It is a real principle of Internet discussion forums: if you have to bring up Nazis in an argument, you've lost the argument.

And the concentration camp analogy is a legitimate one

Hardly. For two reasons:

  1. First, you have a right to patronize another store with different policies or to not patronize any of them at all. People had no choice on whether or not to be relocated to a death camp.
  2. Secondly, you don't defeat fascism with fascism. You defeat it with a free people demanding their freedom and RESPECTING OTHER PEOPLES' FREEDOM. An example:
    Let us hypothesize that you don't drink alcohol and do not approve of other people drinking alcohol. Let's then say I do like to have a drink from time to time (in moderation).
    You invite my family to your home for a barbecue. I bring a 6 pack of my favorite brew with me.
    You are perfectly within your property rights to tell me to leave the beer in the car because you don't want your children exposed to it. I have a choice: respect your wishes and enjoy the barbecue or leave your property because I want my beer.
    You are NOT perfectly within your property rights to tell me that I may not enjoy my adult beverage within my own home.
    I am also not exercising my liberty properly if I tell you, "hell no, I have a right to drink my beer and you have no right to tell me I can't do so while at your barbecue!!"

Do you also want to force the baker to bake the cake? Or force the florist to decorate the gay wedding?

Would you be in favor of a store prohibiting mask wear (and I'm not talking about for security reasons)?

And the concentration camp analogy is a legitimate one, considering they are building 'camps' for the unvaxxed in Australia. Mask mandates, vax passports, and a willing, docile, compliant populace is a hop, skip, and a jump from Nazi Germany.

They are also forcing segregation in Austria, Germany, and, shortly, Italy and Croatia (how ironic is that??)

Although it's scary and tragic, it's totally irrelevant.


You don't defeat fascism with fascism. You defeat fascism with freedom.

70 posted on 11/21/2021 6:21:32 PM PST by markomalley (Directive 10-289 is in force)
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To: markomalley

LOL. There is no “argument” to be had here. Violent Marxists burn our cities and control our government thanks to the support of woke corporations like Costco.

I can assure Marxists do not care why you surrender. All they care about is that you are on your knees and submitting. But do have fun with your doctrinaire “private property” debates on your high horse perch.


73 posted on 11/21/2021 6:46:53 PM PST by lodi90
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To: markomalley
>> "Secondly, you don't defeat fascism with fascism"

How did you come up with that nonsense? Refusing to respect the fascists' property rights is in no way itself fascism. Were the Founding Fathers fascists when they disregarded the King's property rights and threw his tea in the harbor? Did we respect the property rights of the German's when they bombed Pearl Harbor? NO, we bombed the hell out of their Coscos and a hell of a lot of other things too.

Property rights are not God given rights, they are given by society with the expectation that private ownership will be beneficial to society as a whole as well as to the property holder. Without society protecting private property rights there would be no private property (north korea comes to mind here) and this process of creating and protecting private property gives society as a whole a legitimate say in how the property can be used.


>> "You defeat it with a free people demanding their freedom"

No, freedom is taken by force, not demands.


75 posted on 11/21/2021 7:30:43 PM PST by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: markomalley
It is a real principle of Internet discussion forums: if you have to bring up Nazis in an argument, you've lost the argument.

Why, because some internet nerd said so and called it a law? People that quote 'Godwin's law' are well on the road to becoming those people who get in the rail cars. All they need to do now is say, 'bah'.

Now observe as I win this argument while breaking Godwin's fake law.

First, you have a right to patronize another store with different policies or to not patronize any of them at all. People had no choice on whether or not to be relocated to a death camp.

And tell me, Hitler. What do we do when all the stores do what the government tells them to do. Is starvation another way of fighting fascism?

People had no choice on whether or not to be relocated to a death camp.

I guess you missed the part about me saying there's always a choice. For example, I could have chosen to tell the Nazis to GFT when they showed up at my door in the first place and died right there. I could have chosen to let them shoot me down in the street for not wearing the yellow badge. I could have organized an underground guerilla cell and gone down in a blaze of righteous glory.

Or I coulda thrown a b*tch fit in the middle of Costco. So you see, rabbit. There are many choices to be made before one is herded into a death camp.

Secondly, you don't defeat fascism with fascism. You defeat it with a free people demanding their freedom and RESPECTING OTHER PEOPLES' FREEDOM.

Sorta like that Costco patriot did? I'll have to agree with you there. BTW, respecting fascism is not respecting other people's freedom. Its the opposite, in fact. Its respecting other people's squashing of freedom.

You defeat fascism by kicking it in it's ass. Ask Patton, he'll tell you. Say, didn't Neville Chamberlain 'respect other people's freedom'? Yes, I think he did.

If you don't know history, you're doomed to repeat it, my mama always said.

Let us hypothesize that you don't drink alcohol and do not approve of other people drinking alcohol. Let's then say I do like to have a drink from time to time (in moderation). You invite my family to your home for a barbecue. I bring a 6 pack of my favorite brew with me.

You are perfectly within your property rights to tell me to leave the beer in the car because you don't want your children exposed to it.

This is a fine example proving my point. ThankQ.

This was tried on a nationwide scale at one time in our history. We called it 'Prohibition'. 'Member? That was a form of fascism too, just like 'vax mandates'. But the people said GFY, government. We will not comply.

The people did not respect the 'property rights' of the government on this issue. Lives were lost in the conflict, as I recall.

Another. In 1776, the people did not respect the property rights of King George and told him to GFH. Again, lives were lost in the endeavor.

Some time later, the government this time, did not respect the property rights of slave states (other governments) and told them to GFT. More lives were lost in that conflict.

As you can see, your 'property rights' argument is falling apart. You do see that, right?

They are also forcing segregation in Austria, Germany, and, shortly, Italy and Croatia (how ironic is that??) Although it's scary and tragic, it's totally irrelevant.

How is it irrelevant? Its how people do unless they're checked, with force if necessary. And throwing fits in Costco is a first step.

You don't defeat fascism with fascism. You defeat fascism with freedom.

I refer you to the new law:

Patton's Law:

"You defeat fascism by kicking it in it's ass".

That is the law.

(see? I won the argument and while breaking Godwin's 'law').

#CostcoMan

82 posted on 11/22/2021 1:21:25 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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