Posted on 10/30/2021 6:38:44 AM PDT by Libloather
On May 7, 2019, Lisa Lemble and Robert Gordon cut the ribbon on Ann Arbor, Michigan’s first curbside electric vehicle charger. It was an ordeal that required nearly a year of negotiation and permitting, and cost the couple about $15,000. “Mainly we want people to know that if they live in the city of Ann Arbor and don’t have a driveway and don’t have access to a garage, that it’s possible to put in a charging station curbside,” Lemble said at the time.
Possible, yes. Easy, no. More than two years after the Tesla-owning couple installed their dual-nozzle Level 2 charger on the curb in front of their condo, their example has not caught on. Missy Stults, the sustainability and innovations manager for Ann Arbor, said she does not know of another such project in this city of 120,000, home to the University of Michigan.
“It is so bedeviling,” Stults said. “Multifamily is a large portion of our housing stock and we start to have challenges.” The city estimates it needs as many as 10,000 electric vehicle chargers to prepare for full electric-vehicle adoption, and Stults is focused on getting them into publicly accessible parking lots - like the four “fast chargers” in the City Hall parking lot Ann Arbor put online just this Monday.
As for the streets, where residents like Lemble and Gordon park? “Trenching in the right of way gets complicated,” Stults said of the digging required for such a project. “And then what tends to happen is people park in a spot and don’t move.”
Ann Arbor is one of many cities confronting a vast challenge as Democrats pin their hopes to reduce U.S. emissions on the rapid, widespread adoption of electric vehicles: How do you get power to people who park on the street?
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How to get people to stop traveling and save the earth.
Even the large homes can’t do it. You can’t run modern civilization on wind and solar.
Because the Left is forcing them on us. This is not a market-driven transition.
Let me know when the technology is mature enough to be a reliable way to travel. Right now it is s feel good gimmick. Government can’t legislate the advancment of technology. Our grid can’t support the requirements now.
“....like where do i plug this thing in, in the middle of nowhere.”
Ive been asking Elon this for a few years now. It also applies to being able to turn your rocket around in less than 24 hrs and head back to earth from the moon or Mars. Where did all the methane rocket fuel and tower gantry and the entire launch and support facility known as STARBASE come from and can you give me directions to the ones on the moon and Mars before we launch, please?
Leaving aside their cost, if rooftop solar were exploited more than it is, it could potentially free up generating capacity to charge cars. The only problem is timing, since most cars would be charged at night when their is no solar power available to support the grid.
Vermont power company no longer compensates you for what you contribute to the grid. Off the grid is the only way to go.
Maybe in 2121, but not now. Ann Arbor has a total of 8 older Tesla superchargers at the local Meijer. Apparently, adding more supercharging stations or upgrading to the faster superchargers isn't a priority.
That being said, if you believe as I do that the tax credit raised the price of the solar system, then had the tax credit not been there the solar system would have had a low enough cost for me to buy it.
Well, let’s see.
A Tesla battery stores 82,000 watt hours of electricity. Solar panels will produce 20 watts per hour, under ideal conditions, per square foot of surface area.
That may have something to do with it.
Here’s the real story: “From that perspective, the real downside of electrifying the curb in densely populated neighborhoods becomes clear: It would cement the purpose of the curb for car storage for decades to come, just as activists are beginning to convince cities to explore alternate uses, including bike lanes, bus lanes, greenways, public space, and restaurant terraces.”
Activists aren’t interested in providing more, cheaper, convenient electricity. They want everyone to do with less energy.
Adding to my earlier post, I should point out that even during times of peak solar production, not every day is sunny. Sometimes you might encounter three or four completely cloudy days even in the height of Summer. Again, the problem is timing, since solar isn’t there every day, but the demand is.
EVs are coming. Tesla is leading the charge.once they come out with a $25k model it will seriously ramp up.
Most EV owners charge at home during off peak hours. That charge will be more than enough to handle the standard commute and shopping runs.
Public chargers are for medium to long road trips and should be along highways. I expect restaurant & hotel chains who have locations along the interstate highway system to install charging stations to entice customers. “We have WiFi!” Remember that plastered on billboards? Same thing.
Apartment complexes are going to be interesting. If they have dedicated parking spots. Then install a post with a meter that is tied to the apartment. Then have say Tesla make a home charger that has the ability to ONLY charge assigned cars (prevents your neighbor from stealing electricity).
Installing these stations at apartment complexes will be expensive but it has to be seen as an investment. Just like I expect to see a billboard for a restaurant along the highway saying we have EV charging!. I expect apartment complexes to start installing & advertising that they have EV chargers.
The faster Let’s Go Brandon makes gas prices shoot up the more economical EVs become.
After the Great Reset and the extermination of 6.5 billion human infrastructure units we won’t be needing many electric cars or charging stations.
Where do people who live densely populated areas (i.e. cities) or apartment dwellers put the solar panels?
Yes, it will if allowed.
I'm thinking charging could be multiplexed. Say a parking lot with 60 charging cables for charging up while you're at work all day. However, there would be less then 60 actual chargers. Instead, there would be, say, 6 fast chargers that send power to one vehicle for, say, 10 minutes at a time, then change to the next vehicle for 10 minutes and so on. Each vehicle would get 10 minutes per hour, or about an hour and a half per day, enough to fully charge according to the article.
The chargers can be smart enough to know that not all of of the cables are in use and give more time to the ones that are in use.
Also, the charger could send you a text message when your call is fully charged and you'd have a certain amount of time to move it, or face a hefty fine in addition to the usual charging fee, and allow another user to hook up. The charger could also be smart enough to send a text message to the next person in the queue to come and hook up when the charger is free.
Problems I'm sure. Just brainstorming.
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