Posted on 10/30/2021 6:38:44 AM PDT by Libloather
On May 7, 2019, Lisa Lemble and Robert Gordon cut the ribbon on Ann Arbor, Michigan’s first curbside electric vehicle charger. It was an ordeal that required nearly a year of negotiation and permitting, and cost the couple about $15,000. “Mainly we want people to know that if they live in the city of Ann Arbor and don’t have a driveway and don’t have access to a garage, that it’s possible to put in a charging station curbside,” Lemble said at the time.
Possible, yes. Easy, no. More than two years after the Tesla-owning couple installed their dual-nozzle Level 2 charger on the curb in front of their condo, their example has not caught on. Missy Stults, the sustainability and innovations manager for Ann Arbor, said she does not know of another such project in this city of 120,000, home to the University of Michigan.
“It is so bedeviling,” Stults said. “Multifamily is a large portion of our housing stock and we start to have challenges.” The city estimates it needs as many as 10,000 electric vehicle chargers to prepare for full electric-vehicle adoption, and Stults is focused on getting them into publicly accessible parking lots - like the four “fast chargers” in the City Hall parking lot Ann Arbor put online just this Monday.
As for the streets, where residents like Lemble and Gordon park? “Trenching in the right of way gets complicated,” Stults said of the digging required for such a project. “And then what tends to happen is people park in a spot and don’t move.”
Ann Arbor is one of many cities confronting a vast challenge as Democrats pin their hopes to reduce U.S. emissions on the rapid, widespread adoption of electric vehicles: How do you get power to people who park on the street?
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Solar is an option but not for all people. You can fuel up a gasoline
auto in 15 minutes or so, use the bathroom and be on your way.
Not so with solar. Night time and cloudy days impact it also.
Gonna need sunshine on a cloudy day. (My Girl - Temptations - 1964) Solar panels are expensive and will eventually need to be replaced. EV batteries are expensive and will eventually need to be replaced. Lots and lots of unicorn dust being spread out there...
And when the car breaks down, how many mechanics will be able to do a repair?
And when you need a new battery, what much will the loan rate be??
Charge the cars at the office if you cant charge at home.
You’ll never get a return in your lifetime.
Are these stations free to use?
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Basically nothing is free as there are cost that someone has
to pay. Thus there will be charges for their use.
“When gas cars first came out in 1905 there was not a single has station in the US.”
“For the life of me I cannot figure out why conservatives are agauinst ev’s. “
Gas cars solved a problem, getting from point a to point b without a horse.
Why hasn’t the market simply taken off?
Well it doesn’t naturally solve any actual problem.
Where do these clean electric powered cars get their electricity? mostly Coal powered plants. So basically they are powered from stored Coal power. What do liberals want to eliminate? Coal powered electric plants. Enter the circular firing squad.
Gas cars still work. EVs are more expensive, less reliable and have all kinds of logistical problems like where do i plug this thing in, in the middle of nowhere.
Without government subsidies, just like wind power or solar. These things would just flat out die in the natural market. There is simply not enough demand for a defective product
The only people who will afford them will be the illegals that Biden hands out a million dollars to.
You are a wise man....
LOL..... Lots of replacement going on. Most all things
have to be replaced or maintained in some fashion.
You must live in a place that has no extremes of heat or cold. And maybe you and your wife are not high milage drivers. Here in south Louisiana we cut our electric bill in half by installing whole house foam insulation. But the risk of power loss from hurricanes makes an EV deeply impractical. People with generators can manage, but that is a very high cost way (both $ and carbon) to get electricity.
How much CO2 will be generated from all the Chinese battery production and mining needed for the electric vehicle production that the Dems want to force on us?
Also related:
Tesla’s Musk Says U.S. Electricity Production Needs to Double to Power Transition to EV Vehicles
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4000649/posts
You cannot run modern civilization on wind and solar. It cannot be done.
Carbon? You bought off on that crazy BS? LOL!!!
Mainly because conservatives understand the engineering. Electric vehicles as a tiny minority, OK. As the majority in any environment it will require massive upgrades to the grid, which will be paid for with tax money, not by private enterprise. And we know that anything tax-supported will waste 50% to 90% of the money allocated.
I live rural. I not only would need an expensive upgrade to my house wiring, but somebody would have to pay for bigger transformers at the substation that serves my area, and then pay for stringing miles of heavier wire to get out to my farm. I can't begin to afford that, and neither can any of my neighbors!
Further upstream we come to the fact that electrification will require tripling the number of power plants feeding the grid. (No Virginia, wind and solar can't begin to produce the power needed!) Which means the dread nuclear option, or vastly more burning of evil fossil fuels at the generating plants rather than at the point of use (i.e. the car engine).
The romance that some people have with electric vehicles is proof positive that magical thinking dominates the liberal mindset.
Engineers know this, but arts and humanities majors haven't a clue.
It’s all about the math. Learn and apply Ohm’s law, average EV needs 10,000 to 15,000 Watts per hour. You would probably need about an acre of solar cells on a sunny day to get that. Go look at how big a generator you need to get 10KW to 15KW. You you could run multiple arc welders with that much power. California already has brownouts, the grid can not handle the additional load without upgrading. The actuality is that most EVs are currently coal powered as that is how most of our power is now generated.
The environmentalists have eliminated nuclear plants, hydroelectric sources, and are going after coal and natural gas now. Wind and solar are great as a supplement and perfect for LIGHT loads off the grid, but are not currently practical for heavy loads of 10KW plus.
No fracking, no coal, no nuclear, where’s the electricity supply going to come from?
Elon Musk has said in so many words that the entire US electrical grid will need to at least double in capacity for the number of electric cars they want on the road.
Because they are TOTALLY useless for long trips over 300 miles. Because the govt subsidizes them. Because we have plenty of natural gas and petroleum.
If we can,develop and manufacture micronuclear plants, or some other as yet undiscovered form of energy, then the issue will be largely moot.
What I am curious about is how we have yet to advance with any substance from Benjamin Franklin’s first harness of electricity. The grid should be a dinosaur by now.
Without tax subsidies paid by the rest of us, you most assuredly would NOT have bought your solar power plant or EV. The government has so distorted the market that they got you to believe it is affordable. I will think of you every April 15. You got yours and that’s all that counts.
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