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New research reveals the truth about breakthrough cases and coronavirus spread
Deseret News ^ | 14 October 2021 | Herb Scribner

Posted on 10/15/2021 3:12:02 AM PDT by blueplum

People with breakthrough COVID-19 cases might not spread the coronavirus as much as we think, as new research suggests transmission risk is low among breakthrough cases....

Ross Kedl, an immunologist at the University of Colorado School of Medicine, told NPR that the virus that comes from a vaccinated person will look different than one from an unvaccinated person. Vaccinated people often have antibodies from the vaccine. These antibodies “should be coating that virus with antibody and therefore helping prevent excessive downstream transmission,” Kedl told NPR.

In fact, Kedl said most vaccinated people appear to be infected by unvaccinated people, at least according to case studies that have come out.

(Excerpt) Read more at deseret.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: breakthrough; ccpvirus; covid; pandemic
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The NPR article mentioned is HERE

and the Israeli study mentioned, Covid-19 Breakthrough Infections in Vaccinated Health Care Workers, is HERE and is dated Oct 14, 2021

1 posted on 10/15/2021 3:12:02 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Lots of “should”s and “maybe”s in that statement. Sounds more like fantasizing than science.


2 posted on 10/15/2021 3:15:36 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

When I see a “science” article which simply pushes the existing political Narrative, I start questioning the science.


3 posted on 10/15/2021 3:22:17 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (China is like the Third Reich. We are Mussolini's Italy. A weaker, Jr partner, good at losing wars.)
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To: blueplum

Putting scientific facts a side,
Breakthrough people are more likely to be cautious such as wearing a mask, hand washing, distancing, isolating, etc.
While infected unvaccinated people more likely believe in herd immunity and thus are not taking such care and precautions.
Thus common sense tells us the unvaccinated are the super spreaders.


4 posted on 10/15/2021 3:23:34 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (President Trump: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

*aside


5 posted on 10/15/2021 3:25:20 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (President Trump: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works.")
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To: blueplum

Nothing in that study shows vaxx benefits outweighing the risks, post-Alpha Covid era. Nothing.

But good for you that you have NPR’s health experts to analyze it for you.


6 posted on 10/15/2021 3:31:03 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2 (Widespread belief in asymptomatic spread of a low-risk virus hastened the end of the West by 100 yrs)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Huh? That’s just the opposite? The vaxxed think they are safe and are super spreaders


7 posted on 10/15/2021 3:33:42 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: noiseman
Add...might....suggests...

And this is suppose to be the "truth"...

8 posted on 10/15/2021 3:34:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Wearing a mask (which doesn’t prevent anything), distancing (which isn’t determined to be effective), isolating (which is insanity).
I’ll give you hand washing, that’s a good idea.
If the vaccines worked, why would vaccinated people even care whether another person gets vaccinated?


9 posted on 10/15/2021 3:48:42 AM PDT by Fireone (When they pry them from my cold, dead, unvaccinated hands.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A vaccine that doesn’t provide IMMUNITY is NOT a vaccine...its a placebo....

One has to be infected to transmit a virus....unvaxxed does NOT equate to being infected.


10 posted on 10/15/2021 3:52:17 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: blueplum

Where is the “pure” virus sample against which the diagnosis is compared?


11 posted on 10/15/2021 3:53:52 AM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Never mind...a simple review of your recent posts shows you are all in...a jabber jaw vax nazi....

Dont bother with a reply...


12 posted on 10/15/2021 3:55:49 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: blueplum

They cannot know (without very expensive tests, if they even have such tests fir this virus) who is infecting who, as it is a respiratory virus that is in millions of people.


13 posted on 10/15/2021 4:16:20 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Crim
Never mind...a simple review of your recent posts shows you are all in...a jabber jaw vax nazi....
Dont bother with a reply...
From a recent post of mine:
October 2 2021 - Trump: ‘I got the Pfizer’ vaccine
Tell us more about President Trump being an " all in...a jabber jaw vax nazi"...

Speaking of a fanatical nutjob... you went running to me post history because I posted an opinion about spreaders that you did not like.

Btw: You have no clue what vaccines do.

14 posted on 10/15/2021 4:17:31 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (President Trump: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

me=my


15 posted on 10/15/2021 4:18:56 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (President Trump: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works.")
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To: ClearCase_guy
When I see a “science” article which simply pushes the existing political Narrative, I start questioning the science.

Same, and they can blame the politicians and journalists for society's increasing skepticism. Trust, once lost, is not easily regained.

16 posted on 10/15/2021 4:20:48 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: ptsal
the study says, "hese evaluations included epidemiologic investigations, repeat reverse-transcriptase–polymerase-chain-reaction (RT-PCR) assays, antigen-detecting rapid diagnostic testing (Ag-RDT), serologic assays, and genomic sequencing. "

so I'd say genomic sequencing would be definitive, as described further down, "The B.1.1.7 (alpha) variant was found in 85%"

and, from the appendix mentioned and found HERE which shows 84.5% B.1.1.7 and 3% 'wild' (original wuhan recipe)

are we doubting Israeli data now for some obtuse strawman of 'purity'??

17 posted on 10/15/2021 4:23:31 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: Berlin_Freeper

My experience in the real world is the exact opposite of what you posted.

Most folks around here who are vaxxed believe they are immune. They think the vaxx is a magic potion that will make them live forever.

They are traveling all over the place and attending mass gatherings like sports events.

The unvaxxed (in this area a minority) are much more cautious and are worried about being infected from the vaxx folks. They are not permitted in many mass venues.


18 posted on 10/15/2021 4:24:28 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Crim
One has to be infected to transmit a virus....unvaxxed does NOT equate to being infected.
I was in context speaking of infected unvaccinated people.
Too bad you could not follow the context from one sentence to the next.
19 posted on 10/15/2021 4:26:25 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (President Trump: "It's a great vaccine, it's a safe vaccine and it's something that works.")
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To: PghBaldy

what I found a bit fascinating is, they say they can. The virus vaccinated have in their noses and throats are coated with antibodies, whereas the virus in the noses and throats of unvaccinated are not because they haven’t produced them yet.

I’d guess those that got monoclonals, or even those that are recovered reinfected would be the same as vaccinated? same same?


20 posted on 10/15/2021 4:29:55 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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