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Ancient Footprints Push Back Date of Human Arrival in the Americas
The New York Times ^ | 23 Sept 2021 | Carl Zimmer

Posted on 09/23/2021 1:24:31 PM PDT by Theoria

Human footprints found in New Mexico are about 23,000 years old, a study reported, suggesting that people may have arrived long before the Ice Age’s glaciers melted.

Ancient human footprints preserved in the ground across the White Sands National Park in New Mexico are astonishingly old, scientists reported on Thursday, dating back about 23,000 years to the Ice Age.

The results, if they hold up to scrutiny, would rejuvenate the scientific debate about how humans first spread across the Americas, implying that they did so at a time when massive glaciers covered much of their path.

Researchers who have argued for such an early arrival hailed the new study as firm proof.

“I think this is probably the biggest discovery about the peopling of America in a hundred years,” said Ciprian Ardelean, an archaeologist at Autonomous University of Zacatecas in Mexico who was not involved in the work. “I don’t know what gods they prayed to, but this is a dream find.”

For decades, many archaeologists have maintained that humans spread across North and South America only at the end of the last ice age. They pointed to the oldest known tools, including spear tips, scrapers and needles, dating back about 13,000 years. The technology was known as Clovis, named for the town of Clovis, N.M., where some of these first instruments came to light.

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The age of the Clovis tools lined up neatly with the retreat of the glaciers. That alignment bolstered a scenario in which Siberian hunter-gatherers moved into Alaska during the Ice Age, where they lived for generations until ice-free corridors opened and allowed them to expand southward.


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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ciprianardelean; clovis; fauxiantroll; fauxiantrolls; footprints; glaciation; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; jeffpigati; kathleenspringer; lakeotero; mexico; migration; newmexico; origins; paleontology; pleistocene; preclovis; ruppiacirrhosa; solutrean; solutreans; trackway; trackways; tularosabasin; uofzacatecas; whitesands
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To: bunkerhill7
No one 25,000 B.C. could have known about Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto. They probably wouldn't think of earth as a planet.

Maybe the 9 stands for 9 bright objects in the sky--the sun, the moon, Mercury as a morning star, Mercury as an evening star, Venus as a morning star, Venus as an evening star, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.

Or perhaps the 8 brightest stars in the Big Dipper and Polaris. Ca. 25,000 B.C. Polaris would have been the bright star nearest the north pole.

41 posted on 09/23/2021 2:33:08 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Wilderness Conservative

They stole it from the megafauna


42 posted on 09/23/2021 2:35:03 PM PDT by Cronos ( One cannot desire freedom from the Cross, especially when one is especially chosen for the cross)
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To: Theoria

They were probably racists.


43 posted on 09/23/2021 2:37:33 PM PDT by cp124 (Focus on treatment and not an experimental vaccine/flu shot.)
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To: Theoria

Many, many moons ago (a little indian lingo there) I had a double college major of Spanish and archeology. Excavating ancient America and Central America was fascinating, but it could not pay a mortgage. Back then the idea that man had only been in the Americas for a short time seemed ludicrous. I did not argue with older professors who would not consider that we really didn’t (don’t) know when and how it all happened. We keep finding more clues and information, and it is all so very cool.


44 posted on 09/23/2021 2:40:27 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try. )
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To: usurper
In addition we demand casinos and free whisky.

Sorry but I can think of nothing more hypergolic than an Irishman and free WHISKEY (you forgot the 'e'!). Methinks you are flying a false flag as you seem more of a Sassenach!

45 posted on 09/23/2021 2:41:44 PM PDT by SES1066 (Ask not what the LEFT can do for you, rather ask what the LEFT is doing to YOU!)
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To: Texan5
Keywords Solutreans, MonteVerde, CactusHill, sorted and edited, and with one addition:

46 posted on 09/23/2021 2:48:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


47 posted on 09/23/2021 2:51:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SES1066
”Scientific knowledge is a body of statements of varying degrees of certainty -- some most unsure, some nearly sure, none absolutely certain."

Nobel Prize physicist Richard P. Feynman ,

The father of quantum electrodynamics.

48 posted on 09/23/2021 2:52:55 PM PDT by NoLibZone (In 2 yrs only living will be conservative Christians Liberal vaxed sheep will be dead.Trust G's plan)
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To: Theoria

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49 posted on 09/23/2021 3:10:39 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Super cool you can change your tag line EVERYTIME you post!! :D. (Small things make me happy))
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To: Kevmo

no amount evidence supporting the Solutrean culture coming to the USA first would ever be accepted. The entire premise that Europeans are invaders who raped and pillaged the land from brown people is one of the core pillars the Marxists have built their platform upon.


50 posted on 09/23/2021 3:26:25 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: Levy78

Except the problem with your thesis is that at that point in time, Europeans were brown people.


51 posted on 09/23/2021 3:28:36 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

doesn’t matter.... Europeans = evil.


52 posted on 09/23/2021 3:30:11 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: Levy78
Back to reality. There isn't any evidence for the Solutreans beyond the minor resemblance of some blades. The fact that the Solutrean hypothesis is out there suggests that real evidence would be well received.
53 posted on 09/23/2021 3:34:39 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

Clovis first is clearly a false theory to explain the peopling of America. We’ve known this for a long, long time... Entire careers and institutions have been built upon the Clovis first falsehood. To suggest anything else was a career ender up until very recently. So, if not Clovis... then who? I am not bought into Solutrean at all... but I am very convinced, based on evidence, that people were here far before the Clovis culture emerged or came.


54 posted on 09/23/2021 3:38:24 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: dfwgator

I really need the T shirt.


55 posted on 09/23/2021 3:51:56 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Levy78

I don’t think Clovis First has been really advanced for many decades. That makes the way these articles are written kinda annoying. They have to insert the old theory. Advocating Not-Clovis first was certainly not a career ender for Adovasio. He made a very nice career out it.


56 posted on 09/23/2021 3:57:45 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Varda

Still very much advanced in the early 2000’s when I was in college. Adovasio would be the first to tell you how many will cling bitterly to Clovis first until their last breath…. especially well into the 2000’s.


57 posted on 09/23/2021 4:20:29 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: Levy78

Clinging to something and having your career ended by it are two different things. As they say, theories don’t die until the people advocating them do.


58 posted on 09/23/2021 4:29:29 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Levy78
I know, but the evidence is trickling in. I find it fascinating.


59 posted on 09/23/2021 4:32:03 PM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: usurper

Of course we demand free whiskey. God invented whiskey so the Irish wouldn’t rule the world.


60 posted on 09/23/2021 4:37:14 PM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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