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Ancient Footprints Push Back Date of Human Arrival in the Americas
The New York Times ^ | 23 Sept 2021 | Carl Zimmer

Posted on 09/23/2021 1:24:31 PM PDT by Theoria

Human footprints found in New Mexico are about 23,000 years old, a study reported, suggesting that people may have arrived long before the Ice Age’s glaciers melted.

Ancient human footprints preserved in the ground across the White Sands National Park in New Mexico are astonishingly old, scientists reported on Thursday, dating back about 23,000 years to the Ice Age.

The results, if they hold up to scrutiny, would rejuvenate the scientific debate about how humans first spread across the Americas, implying that they did so at a time when massive glaciers covered much of their path.

Researchers who have argued for such an early arrival hailed the new study as firm proof.

“I think this is probably the biggest discovery about the peopling of America in a hundred years,” said Ciprian Ardelean, an archaeologist at Autonomous University of Zacatecas in Mexico who was not involved in the work. “I don’t know what gods they prayed to, but this is a dream find.”

For decades, many archaeologists have maintained that humans spread across North and South America only at the end of the last ice age. They pointed to the oldest known tools, including spear tips, scrapers and needles, dating back about 13,000 years. The technology was known as Clovis, named for the town of Clovis, N.M., where some of these first instruments came to light.

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The age of the Clovis tools lined up neatly with the retreat of the glaciers. That alignment bolstered a scenario in which Siberian hunter-gatherers moved into Alaska during the Ice Age, where they lived for generations until ice-free corridors opened and allowed them to expand southward.


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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ciprianardelean; clovis; fauxiantroll; fauxiantrolls; footprints; glaciation; godsgravesglyphs; iceage; mexico; migration; newmexico; origins; paleontology; solutrean; solutreans; trackway; trackways; uofzacatecas
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1 posted on 09/23/2021 1:24:31 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: SunkenCiv
ping.


2 posted on 09/23/2021 1:24:58 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

“ suggesting that people may have arrived long before the Ice Age’s glaciers melted”

And that’s how global warming began 🤪


3 posted on 09/23/2021 1:26:48 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: Theoria

Maybe they can figure out who the Indians stole this land from.


4 posted on 09/23/2021 1:27:01 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: Theoria

Early enough to be Solutrean.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis


5 posted on 09/23/2021 1:27:34 PM PDT by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Theoria; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks Theoria. Unless something changes, this is going to become the weekly digest ping in a couple of days

6 posted on 09/23/2021 1:28:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Theoria

Yeah interesting. But can’t read the whole thing without a NYSlimes subscription


7 posted on 09/23/2021 1:31:16 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: Theoria

But, but, but.......indigenous people and stuff.


8 posted on 09/23/2021 1:31:42 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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9 posted on 09/23/2021 1:33:36 PM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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To: Theoria

10 posted on 09/23/2021 1:33:41 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The democrats have just replaced KKK with CRT. /Kevin McCarty 7/6/21)
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To: Theoria

But what race were they? That’s the important fact. The continent , rivers, oceans, mountains and lakes were stolen from the original settlers and should therefore be restored to their racial descendants 23,000 years later. Everyone else needs to pay rent or get out. Isn’t that how it works?


11 posted on 09/23/2021 1:34:09 PM PDT by TonyinLA ( I don't have sufficient information to make an informed opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: rktman

Native American tribes have legends about people who populated this land before their own tribes arrived here. They are sometimes called “the Old Ones.”


12 posted on 09/23/2021 1:36:10 PM PDT by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia! )
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To: Vaquero
Full article.
13 posted on 09/23/2021 1:36:57 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

If you look at a map of the Pacific Ocean, there are several underwater mountain ranges that were probably wholly or partially above water at some point. One stretches from Siberia to South America. Maybe these people travelled to South America (and places like Hawaii) by island-hopping when parts of these mountain ranges were above water?


14 posted on 09/23/2021 1:37:30 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
The 'kelp highway' theory has been around for sometime.


15 posted on 09/23/2021 1:42:10 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria

Thank you. Interesting!


16 posted on 09/23/2021 1:43:37 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: UnwashedPeasant

How many times were they told to cover their tracks so things like this would’t be discovered?

I must say though their prints have an odd pattern.


17 posted on 09/23/2021 1:43:55 PM PDT by LeoTDB69
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To: Steve_Seattle
Possible, but not necessary. Asians could have come to the Americas without venturing out over the Pacific. All they needed to do was continue along the shore--coming ashore to camp overnight or for a few days--and then continuing.

By following the shoreline they eventually could have traveled to the coast of Peru, for example.

18 posted on 09/23/2021 1:44:40 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Theoria

Thanks for this. BRING BACK PANGEA! Good thing piles of money can fix what humans have done eh?


19 posted on 09/23/2021 1:50:43 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: fidelis
Fidem scit.

When the French came into North America below Canada in the 1700`s they wanted to build a fort. They asked the Indians if there was a source of rocks that they could blast out with black powder and carve up for stone blocks to build their fort. The Indians said.."You do not have to blast nor carve.. Come, we will show you a cliff that has been blasted out before our ancestors arrived here." The Indians took the French to a blasted out cliff face 300 feet high.,

There was a "hill of stones" blocks some 6-12 feet long, 3-4 feet wide strewn in a pile nearby. I heard this story handed down in my family when I was 8 years old.. I climbed on this hill of stone blocks when I was a kid. It was then only 40 feet high and several hundred feet long. The "hill of stones" appears on a British map of 1759. The stones I saw and clambered over had very smooth faces and very sharp edges almost like knife edbges coz you coulod cut yourself on them. On two streets here the houses have some of these stone blocks as their foundations. One man dug a foundation fior a deck and found scores of hese stone blocks. They were dug up and transported 4 miles to be used as the wall for a dam at the golf course. Evidently the French used these blocks to build several forts on those streets. The fort outlines can be seen on 1750`s British maps.

20 posted on 09/23/2021 1:51:35 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (That`s 464 people per square foot! Is this corrrect?? It was NYC.)
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