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1 posted on 07/22/2021 9:50:39 PM PDT by Tipllub
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Let’s see … 31 fully vaccinated assisted living patients are found during weekly COVID-19 testing to have tested positive. So they are “cases”. They haven’t been sent to hospitals and there’s no indication in the article that these residents even feel sick.

Imagine the holocaust that would have occurred if this happened BEFORE THE VACCINATIONS!

Much ado about nothing, Tipllub. Come back when the mass burials happen.


2 posted on 07/22/2021 10:01:23 PM PDT by House Atreides
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So exactly what does 99.x percent effective mean again?


3 posted on 07/22/2021 10:03:32 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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Are they showing symptoms? If yes, how many of them? Hospitalized? Deaths? If not hospitalizations and deaths, then this means that the vaccines are working as expected. Everyone is going to get infected, the vaccine was never supposed to stop that.


4 posted on 07/22/2021 10:05:40 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Some key questions here. They are suggesting that Delta variant is highly transmissible. But is it more deadly? Is it more likely to “break through” vaccines? Is ADE an issue?

I read where JNJ said their vaccine provides very good protection against the Delta variant. Also read that 80%+ of all new cases are Delta variant. I cannot confirm either stat it’s just media reports, which are mostly FOS regardless of the topic. In the UK there is a spike, like here in the US, but hospitalizations are 40% vaccinated. It could be that the vaccine they use in the UK is crap against Delta and not applicable here (since the AstraZeneca vaccine used in the UK is not available in the USA).

Too much to dissect. But the CDC, whether you trust them or not, claims the Delta variant is 1000 times more concentrated and more transmissible. But is it more deadly? What is the relative risk? Does it break-through some or all of the vaccines more readily?

Lots of open questions imo. These reports we get are not complete, full, transparent. That just breeds more distrust. I get that TPTB are trying to bully the unvaccinated into getting the jab so I take it all with a grain of salt. Which is too bad that our sources of information are completely untrustworthy.


7 posted on 07/22/2021 10:13:04 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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The Swine Flu epidemic didn’t end until they stopped testing for it.


8 posted on 07/22/2021 10:13:51 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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42 people quarantined amid COVID-19 outbreak at San Antonio

Is this an outbreak of the breakthrough?

10 posted on 07/22/2021 10:17:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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as the pool of unvaccinated shrinks, the incidences of breakthrough in vaccinated will seem more noteworthy even if they aren’t

Study: Immunocompromised Response to COVID-19 Vaccination

“PITTSBURGH – People with conditions that compromise their immune systems exhibit a wide spectrum of antibody responses to COVID-19 vaccination, ranging from only 1 in 5 lung transplant patients having an antibody response to a nearly complete response in patients with well-controlled HIV. The results are part of an interim analysis of a large study on UPMC patients and health care workers. ...

..”.While 98.1% of the health care workers produced antibodies after vaccination, only 37.2% of the vaccinated solid organ transplant patients were positive for antibodies; 54.7% of the blood cancer patients; 82.4% of those with solid tumor cancer and 83.8% of patients with autoimmune disorders. In contrast, 94.6% of patients with HIV made antibodies.

“Among patients with solid organ transplants, lung transplant patients had a particularly poor response to vaccination, with only 22.2% producing antibodies. Liver transplant patients fared best, with 60.6% of study participants producing antibodies after vaccination. Patients who received their transplant less than a year ago were less likely to respond to vaccination than those transplanted earlier.

“In addition, cancer patients receiving radiation therapy and patients taking certain medications—such as antimetabolites for transplant and anti-CD20 monoclonal antibodies for autoimmune disorders—were more likely not to produce antibodies after COVID-19 vaccination.

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/063021-haidar-covics-interim-medrxiv


11 posted on 07/22/2021 10:19:38 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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Unpossible. Pedo Joe said last night you get the jab you won’t get the covid. No, really.......


15 posted on 07/22/2021 10:26:45 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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Nothing to see here. Move along....

CDC Quietly Deletes 6,000 COVID Vaccine Deaths From Its CDC Website Total in One Day — Caught by Internet Sleuths (VIDEO)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/cdc-quietly-deletes-6000-covid-vaccine-deaths-cdc-website-total-one-day-caught-internet-sleuths-video/

17 posted on 07/22/2021 10:32:09 PM PDT by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists.)
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I’m hearing so many conflicting anecdotal reports…

Some say only the unvaccinated are getting covid.
Others say the opposite, that we cases are mostly among the already vaccinated.

I am not getting the vaccination either way, because I’m just not afraid of covid.

But it is weird that there are so many conflicting claims, and no actual data.

If 60% of people are vaccinated, and the vaccination is not working at all, I would expect 60% of new cases to be among the vaccinated.

If the vaccine is working only half the time, I would expect 30% of new cases to be among the vaccinated.

If the vaccine is working perfectly, I would expect 0% of new cases to be among the vaccinated.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to prove it - one way or the other.


30 posted on 07/22/2021 11:03:15 PM PDT by enumerated
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the “vaccines” are causing the new cases

and they are not even vaccines because theres no immunit ytgey are conferring

these stats prove it


32 posted on 07/22/2021 11:06:50 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Efficacy in the elderly is likely to be not nearly as good.

But that’s the case with flu vaccines, too.

And we don’t shut down the country for influenza, mandate flu shots, or refuse to offer treatments and/or prophylaxes...

At least we didn’t when we still had a republic.


44 posted on 07/23/2021 4:22:24 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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Two weeks to flatten the curve.


46 posted on 07/23/2021 6:49:53 AM PDT by Pollard
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all the more reason to lay in a stock of zelenko therapeutics for you and your loved ones ASAP ...

https://www.silverlinemedicare.com/


58 posted on 07/23/2021 3:21:24 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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