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To: Tipllub

Are they showing symptoms? If yes, how many of them? Hospitalized? Deaths? If not hospitalizations and deaths, then this means that the vaccines are working as expected. Everyone is going to get infected, the vaccine was never supposed to stop that.


4 posted on 07/22/2021 10:05:40 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
If not hospitalizations and deaths, then this means that the vaccines are working as expected

From what I've read its only expected to be positive on anti-body tests, not on tests for the virus which are supposed to be very rarely positive after vaccination.

So if the tests given in the nursing home were anti-body tests, no big deal. Otherwise it would seem the vaccines are not working as expected.

9 posted on 07/22/2021 10:17:10 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: MinorityRepublican
Everyone is going to get infected, the vaccine was never supposed to stop that.

You got that right. They never promised the vaccines would prevent infection or the spread of infection. They just said it would reduce risk of severe infection, hospitalization or death.

But they don't make clear is whether it is an absolute reduction in risk, or a reduction in relative risk. Clearly a very large number of people infected never get any symptoms at all, or symptoms so mild they don't even bother to get tested. Of the 330 million or so people in America, only 100 million tests have been administered (don't hold me to that number, I could be wrong). I count for at least 4 of them, maybe 5. So what is the real infection rate vs the published data? I'd just stab in the dark that the real infection/recovery rate is well more than 2x the official number.

They really don't want open and free and honest dialogue about any of this. Too bad. Just breeds more distrust.

12 posted on 07/22/2021 10:20:45 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Everyone is going to get infected, the vaccine was never supposed to stop that.
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I’m pretty sure they said it would. Otherwise no point in having a vax


16 posted on 07/22/2021 10:28:07 PM PDT by roving
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