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Who is most likely to develop severe COVID-19 even after a second jab?
Jerusalem Post ^ | 14 Jul 2021 | MAAYAN JAFFE-HOFFMAN

Posted on 07/16/2021 5:01:09 PM PDT by blueplum

Older individuals with many underlying medical conditions and immunosuppression are more likely to contract coronavirus and would develop a severe case of COVID-19 even after being fully vaccinated, according to a world-first study conducted in Israel....

.....some 35% of patients had no detectable antibodies – meaning they had failed to mount an immune response to the vaccine.

The median time that elapsed from the second dose to hospitalization was 40 days...

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: ccpvirus; covid19; israel; pandemic
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38 of 152 died (25%)
1 posted on 07/16/2021 5:01:09 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Black people, of course.


2 posted on 07/16/2021 5:03:37 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Republican politicans love being in office, Democrat politicians love being in power.)
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West Virginia is reporting a 0.1% breakthrough infection rate. I haven’t seen a chart for all states yet

https://wvmetronews.com/2021/07/13/state-leaders-fully-vaccinated-state-residents-have-a-1-percent-covid-infection-rate/


3 posted on 07/16/2021 5:04:50 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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These numbers are worse than useless unless there is some way to figure out what percentage would have died without the vaccine.

We have tons of data but no real information!


4 posted on 07/16/2021 5:06:03 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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Considering many of the test kits were fake. All of The worldwide data is garbage.


5 posted on 07/16/2021 5:08:31 PM PDT by cnsmom
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To: blueplum

for comparison, found this on BTIs from Estonia, who were nice enough to break it down by vaccine:

0.18 percent of those receiving Pfizer/BioNTech, 0.08 percent of those receiving AstraZeneca, 0.02 percent of those vaccinated with Moderna, and 0.03 percent of those with Janssen.

0.02 percent of vaccinated have needed hospital treatment

news.err.ee/1608278733/0-13-percent-of-fully-vaccinated-people-diagnosed-with-coronavirus


6 posted on 07/16/2021 5:09:52 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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Source:https://t.co/meYf2kotl9

41 "fully vaccinated" deaths as of the most recent report (through July 7),
27 last week,
13 two weeks ago.
That's 28 deaths in the fully vaccinated from June 23 to July 7, more than half of all deaths Scotland reported over that period.— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) July 15, 2021


7 posted on 07/16/2021 5:14:29 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: blueplum

I received the 2nd jab on March 4th, 2021. And I died on April 15th, 2021. But it was from the tax bill from IRS.


8 posted on 07/16/2021 5:14:59 PM PDT by entropy12 ( I am more interested in return of my capital than return on my capital...who said that?)
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To: blueplum

What is the difference between being vaccinated and being fully vaccinated?

Compare and contrast to being preggers.


9 posted on 07/16/2021 5:15:55 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Critical Marx Theory is The SOLUTION....)
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High rates of death occurred during the 5 week 'vaccination' period in Israel, with the vaccinated elderly dying at 40 times the rate of unvaccinated, and the young vaccinated dying at rates 240 times that of the unvaccinated.

Link, quotes and my notes on article: Orders of Magnitude Higher Deaths in the Vaccinated: Israel’s Vaccine Data Reveals a Frightening Picture

The elderly are safer with their own immune systems and safe, effective medication protocols which cut risk of hospitalization and death by 85%.

Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?

The 'vaccines' depress the immune system so that other illnesses surge but are ignored as a 'vaccination' program impact. People can die from illnesses they would otherwise survive if their immune systems were not battling these fake 'vaccines'.

10 posted on 07/16/2021 5:17:06 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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These deaths reported after the vax are just as unreliable as deaths with covid reported by the gov’t. George Floyd died with covid, not from covid.


11 posted on 07/16/2021 5:17:38 PM PDT by entropy12 ( I am more interested in return of my capital than return on my capital...who said that?)
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To: entropy12

What’d that feel like?

Did you have any after effects after you croaked?


12 posted on 07/16/2021 5:17:42 PM PDT by crz
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"“Almost all of them (96%) had comorbidities: heart disease, lung disease, renal disease, dementia, cancer, or other common ailments."

Some of these people would have perhaps died from the common cold. When you are aged and infirm particularly with conditions that compromise your immunity, it doesn't take much to send you over the rainbow.

For the very same reason we've overcounted COVID deaths, we're likely to overcount COVID deaths of the vaccinated. As they say, some of these people have one foot in the ground and the other on a banana peel.

13 posted on 07/16/2021 5:18:31 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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India might be able to answer your question. Here’s a study that claims an 81% reduction in mortality of those 45 and older. This study was conducted from March/April 2021:

“New Delhi, July 14 (IANS) A cohort study on the impact of vaccination among Covid-19 patients by Star Health and Allied Insurance has unveiled the significant impacts of vaccination among individuals 45 years and above, IndiaMedToday reported.

The study concluded that there was a marked reduction in the total hospitalisation expenses by approximately 24 per cent, the average length of stay (ALOS) by a mean of 2.1 days, ICU requirement by 66 per cent and a reduction of approximately 81 per cent in mortality among patients who had completed two doses of vaccination.”

The report said the study was conducted during the second wave (March and April 2021) and considered a sample size of 3,820 hospitalised patients from across India who were 45 years and above.”

...the need for ICU for patients with comorbidities fell from a whopping 9.4 per cent to 5 per cent amongst those vaccinated...”

https://www.timesnownews.com/health/article/covid-vaccination-leads-to-reduced-icu-stay-treatment-cost/784921


14 posted on 07/16/2021 5:22:56 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum

ThAtS PeRfEcTlY NoRmAl FoR a VaCcInE


15 posted on 07/16/2021 5:24:14 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: ScubaDiver

Your general point is correct, but that is exactly the reason that medicine traditionally recommended against vaccinating old and frail people...anything could be the “last straw”.

These days they just want to jab anyone who can’t fight back—without regard for consequences.


16 posted on 07/16/2021 5:24:28 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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"Who is most likely to develop severe COVID-19 even after a second jab?"

Democrats?🤞

17 posted on 07/16/2021 5:26:26 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: blueplum

Let us see a lot more data—so far it is just arm waving.


18 posted on 07/16/2021 5:26:32 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: blueplum

Older people who already have health problems and/or have weakened immune systems for one reason or another are more vulnerable even if they have been vaccinated.

Thank you Captain Obvious


19 posted on 07/16/2021 5:27:35 PM PDT by utahb52
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To: blueplum

From what I’ve read, the vaccines used in the USA have about a 5% to 10% ineffectiveness rate in the elderly.

I suspect that if you have been hospitalized for an infection or have had flu more than once after regular flu vaccination as an older person, Covid vaccines might be ineffective for you.

There seems to be a great reluctance to develop and use Covid antibody testing, but such testing is key to helping the people highly vulnerable to Covid after Covid vaccination shots keep themselves safe.


20 posted on 07/16/2021 5:29:24 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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