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Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?
israelnationalnews.com ^ | Jul 13 , 2021 | David Rosenberg

Posted on 07/15/2021 9:59:46 PM PDT by ransomnote

Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry.

Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination.

More than 7,700 new cases of the virus have been detected during the most recent wave starting in May, but just 72 of the confirmed cases were reported in people who were known to have been infected previously – that is, less than 1% of the new cases.

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1 posted on 07/15/2021 9:59:46 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Cathi; Unrepentant VN Vet; metmom; Fractal Trader; SecAmndmt; bagster; doc maverick; ...

Ping


2 posted on 07/15/2021 10:00:16 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

Liberals think natural food is better than regular food. They like their organic non-GMO sustainable food and disdain people who shop at GASP Safeway. But they think an industrial vaccine is better than natural immunity.


3 posted on 07/15/2021 10:10:46 PM PDT by webheart (Free of mask, free of mask! Great God almighty.....)
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To: ransomnote
God's Vaccine™
4 posted on 07/15/2021 10:21:51 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: ransomnote

Is any one surprised that God-given immunity is superior to man’s feeble attempts at manufacturing immunity?


5 posted on 07/15/2021 10:23:18 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/FDReSD7betTZ/

6 posted on 07/15/2021 10:24:21 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: ransomnote

Wuhan Flu
Will put a
Curse on You!


7 posted on 07/15/2021 10:49:33 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Be Still and Know that I Am God. Rev 19)
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To: Karl Spooner

Bookmark


8 posted on 07/15/2021 11:00:55 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: ransomnote

Infection.


9 posted on 07/15/2021 11:05:35 PM PDT by ifinnegan ( Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ransomnote

No kidding. We used to know this. Duh.


10 posted on 07/15/2021 11:12:23 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: ransomnote

How many years have vaccines been around and this question has never been asked before?

Because everyone already knew the answer.

And now the left is treating everyone as if they are brain dead.


11 posted on 07/15/2021 11:15:05 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith……)
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To: ransomnote
This is old Israeli government had agreed to Pfizer the Israeli people have become the world's lab rat.

From what I understand, if 43,871 divided by 660, one died out of 66 vaccinated?  New Israeli government again agreed with Pfizer to use Israeli population to be the world's lab rat of the Pfizer's booster vaccine which FDA haven't even approved yet.

12 posted on 07/15/2021 11:59:14 PM PDT by wannabegeek (Israeli people are world's lab rat of Pfizer. Nazi Germany had experimented with Jewish prisoners.)
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To: ransomnote
How about this.  In UK, out of 1,007,253 vaccinated, 1,403 died.

 

So, if I'll divide 1,007,253 by 1,403, one die for every 71 vaccinated?

In U.S. 335.498,779 does were used.  If divide that number by maybe 100, there are already 3 million died from the jab?  If divide by 300, there may already 1 million died from jab's severe adverse effect?

Reuters article [click here], only 4,178 died from jab's severe adverse effect yet.    Is that even believable?

13 posted on 07/16/2021 12:28:32 AM PDT by wannabegeek (Israeli people are world's lab rat of Pfizer. Nazi Germany had experimented with Jewish prisoners.)
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To: webheart

yeah

but the nice thing about being liberal is never worrying about hypocrisy, double standards, or holding contradictory beliefs

because as a liberal you’re superior and don’t require introspection and critical self analysis


14 posted on 07/16/2021 12:37:26 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Oppps, correction to UK's number.  Per UK Independent [click here], as of June 21, 2021, there are 74,577,678 people vaccinated in UK. 43,127,763 took the first jab.  31,449,915 took the 2nd jab.  1,007,253 reportedly injured.  1,403 died!  Okay, if I divide 31,449,915 by 1,403.  I don't know how can I compare the number with U.S. by ratio and proportion.  Still I don't believe only 4,178 died in U.S.
15 posted on 07/16/2021 1:41:09 AM PDT by wannabegeek (Israeli people are world's lab rat of Pfizer. Nazi Germany had experimented with Jewish prisoners.)
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To: wannabegeek

divide 1,007,253 by 1,403 = 717.928011404 or approx 718


16 posted on 07/16/2021 2:18:33 AM PDT by Nateman (If the Left is not screaming , you are doing it wrong.)
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To: wannabegeek

Oppps, correction to UK’s number. Per UK Independent [click here], as of June 21, 2021, there are 74,577,678 people vaccinated in UK. 43,127,763 took the first jab. 31,449,915 took the 2nd jab. 1,007,253 reportedly injured. 1,403 died! Okay, if I divide 31,449,915 by 1,403. I don’t know how can I compare the number with U.S. by ratio and proportion. Still I don’t believe only 4,178 died in U.S.
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The number of deaths published by the CD from reports following Covid ‘vaccination’ in the US is technically about 9,048 until the next update (which is tonight but hasn’t surfaced anywhere) but there’s plenty of evidence the CDC is simply not uploading/publishing many of the records it receives post Covid ‘shots’. The CDC started curtailing uploads in mid January and has been cutting back ever since.

Then, instead of making a phone app to connect to VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event System) so people could report to problems following Covid vaccination, the CDC created a second, private database to capture patient reports before they make it to VAERS. SO V-safe is offered to every vaccinated person. Only 7% ever register for it and those reports are private - the CDC will decide who or if anyone gets to see it.
There were known problems with VAERS under reporting for a long time. In 2010 Harvard did a study on VAERS and found that less than 1% of reports of adverse events following vaccinations are ever reported to the CDC.

I go into detail about that in this post.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3974771/posts?page=19#19

There’s also the ‘unclassified’ category for deaths that has grown from 600 per month in 2020 to 50K total in 7 months in 2021 that the CDC is supposedly tracking. I question the timing = they say that there are no cases post Covid ‘vaccination’ reported in VAERS that have been proven to be related to the vaccine, so what do they call those cases they publish in VAERS but say are unrelated to Covid vax? Unknown?

Theoretically, yes, given that 9K is just part of the records the CDC has been willing to publish, that VAERS only captures less than 1% of actual events when times are ‘normal’ and that now medical staff are stretched thin, with doctors being threatened for stating an unpopular medical opinion, I do believe VAERs could be reporting a fractio of actual records of death following vaccination. Yes, yes I know that the CDC says zero deaths following vaccination are related to the vaccine, it’s just that I don’t believe them. Yes, I do know that not all deaths reported to VAERS are due to the vaccine, but I’ve read enough records in VAERS to notice the pattern, “He was fine until he had the vacccine...” is quite common. So the lowest estimate I’d go is another 50K hidden in CDC’s “unknown” cause of mortality field thus far in 2021, and I feel confident that’s just a fraction of the deaths, particularly among the elderly who were ‘blinking out’ like light bulbs and their deaths excused in nursing care homes as ‘old age’ or ‘super spreader event’ after vaccination.

The Biden Administration says preposterous lies, like Biden won more votes than Obama, so yes, I think the CDC could be hiding a million or more deaths.

In Israel, they found through government stats that chances of dying during their 5 week vaccination push were 40 times higher for the elderly vaccinated compared with those not vaccinated, and 240 times for the younger group of vaccinated compared with not vaccinated.
So 9,000 current deaths reported to the CDC, but not proven causal, times roughly 200 would equal 1,800,000 and they would have to be lying big time about mortality rates.

However, reading an article about booming business for funeral parlors in Ireland, there were comments on the thread saying there’s record business for funeral homes in the US too. I don’t know the actual number of deaths, I am confident, based on all I’ve researched thus far, it’s unacceptably high.


17 posted on 07/16/2021 3:09:22 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: wannabegeek
Just a few more comparisons.

Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry.

Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination.

More than 7,700 new cases of the virus have been detected during the most recent wave starting in May, but just 72 of the confirmed cases were reported in people who were known to have been infected previously – that is, less than 1% of the new cases.

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Terry Smith on Twitter: "@JamesSurowiecki @punditpending https://t.co/3wMYJVGleZ" / Twitter

Sky news reported Public Health England data shows that 257 people died of the Covid Delta variant. 118 were fully vaccinated. 92 were unvaccinated. 231 were over 50 years of age.

Sky News report on Delta variant -- More vaccinated deaths than unvaccinated... - YouTube

Computer generated transcript of Sky News video clip:

but new data from public health is
concerning
it looked at 257 people known to have
died with a delta variant
92 were unvaccinated but 118
had had both doses that's because the
vaccine is good
but not perfect the overwhelming
majority of deaths where people
age 50 or older reflecting the strong
age-related risk of coping
it's what you would expect but it shows
that even if you've had your jabs you're
still
at small risk and deaths are likely to
rise as cases
surge from the rapid rollback of
lockdown

18 posted on 07/16/2021 3:57:34 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

We still know it.

But CoupFlu was NEVER about public health.


19 posted on 07/16/2021 3:59:02 AM PDT by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: webheart

That is an observation that came to light for me this morning while pondering how one might refuse a vaccine for reasons of conscience due to its manmade nature. The virus is manmade. The vaccine is manmade. Who knows what harm may come to my body should I receive an injection. No amount of test studies mitigates, or vitiates the potential for harm. But don’t you dare deny me that bag of Hot Cheetos!


20 posted on 07/16/2021 4:06:59 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (No audit. No peace.)
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