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Barry Diller Headed 2 Hollywood Studios. He Now Says The Movie Business Is Dead
https://www.npr.org ^ | July 8, 2021 | DAVID GURA

Posted on 07/09/2021 9:18:50 AM PDT by Enterprise

"The movie business is over," Diller said in an exclusive interview with NPR on the sidelines of the Allen & Company Sun Valley Conference, a media and technology conference in Idaho. "The movie business as before is finished and will never come back."

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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: communists; gayagenda; good; hollywood; movies; propaganda; sunvalley; woke; wokemovies
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To: ClearCase_guy

Monkeys banging away randomly on typewriters work cheaply.


61 posted on 07/09/2021 10:20:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It isn’t about making movies, the problem is distribution. And the streaming payout for independent producers will never make back their production expenses.


62 posted on 07/09/2021 10:21:55 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: Enterprise

With tens of thousands of really good movies and lots more forgettable ones in the last 100 years, who needs new “woke” movies to tell us how “bad” we are.

Last time I was at a theater was to see the new True Grit. All the others at the six plex were superhero comic book movies.


63 posted on 07/09/2021 10:23:13 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: wally_bert

Same here. Hundreds of really good movies. No modern H’wood trash.


64 posted on 07/09/2021 10:24:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: SaxxonWoods

I used to produce stock footage and sometimes made up to 200 a clip sale.

The agency I submitted to the most reworked the commission schedule. Longtime contributors like me got reset to making pennies essentially per sale.

I send stuff to a couple others that pay better but sales are infrequent.

The camera equipment and lights aren’t powered on any more.

I liked making my own stuff and at times hiring talent.

Before the scam hit, I had few ideas but none of it is worth pursuing.

Might part with the gear since I use an IPhone just for my photos on the fly.


65 posted on 07/09/2021 10:27:47 AM PDT by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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To: Enterprise

“...The Movie Business Is Dead...”

Don’t RIP. All the great movies have already been anyhow.


66 posted on 07/09/2021 10:28:53 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: a fool in paradise
I see a possible trend of small teams (conceivably one person) making movies for low-level distribution (very similar to a 10 minute cooking video on YouTube. Production cost: minimal. Distribution cost: minimal. Some percentage of the product being produced will “go viral” and be seen by 50 million people. Some makers will be successful. Others, not so much. But almost anyone can try.

They may have to tweak the monetization angle a little bit, but I think good quality 90-minute productions would be achievable for relatively small expense and that reaching a decent profit margin would be quite do-able.

It's like building a better mousetrap. Making a Hollywood movie for $200M isn't a good mousetrap anymore. A nerd in his basement making a major movie in his spare time is a better mousetrap.

67 posted on 07/09/2021 10:28:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: SaxxonWoods

I think it has gotten even worse in the era of streaming.

like 80% of all revenue from music (albums/singles) these days comes from streaming.

Everything else combined divides up the remaining 17%
Digital downloads
LP/vinyl
CDs
cassettes
anything else “sold”

And streaming charts are influenced by racks of computers in server farms streaming the same song or album on endless repeat.

Wind up with wonky “success” like Ed Sheeran having more singles in the top 10 in the UK than even the Beatles ever managed because his album was streaming on constant repeat. But if the songs were not “released” as a single, should their stream count make the singles chart?

And if you PAY to subscribe to one of these streaming services you money still goes to the top streamed “artists” and not to the artists you actually listened to over that period.


68 posted on 07/09/2021 10:30:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: Enterprise

Just when you thought there was no good news anymore.


69 posted on 07/09/2021 10:30:30 AM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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To: Enterprise

Yeah, I am heartbroken.


70 posted on 07/09/2021 10:31:51 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Leep

Hollyteenth Celebration


71 posted on 07/09/2021 10:31:57 AM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Aside from a few indie outliers and foreign movies hollywood has, indeed, produced nothing but crap. How many more comic book movies can anyone watch? I admit I enjoyed the two Christopher Nolan Batman movies (the third was garbage). But how long ago were those?


72 posted on 07/09/2021 10:33:33 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: alternatives?

Back in 1968, after the murder of Bobby Kennedy and the anti-violence hysteria that followed, adult TV shows (but safe for children) were dumbed down to kiddie shows. Pulp fiction magazines cleaned up their gritty covers, movies shown on TV were butchered to remove “violence”.

The movie industry got a pass as they said they would regulate themselves with a joke of a ratings code. “G,M,R,X” which killed the Hays Code.
with the Hays code dead, they reshot scenes to add more blood, guts, violence and lots of SEX!

Movies now are just to food to sate the masses, much like old Gladiator fights.


73 posted on 07/09/2021 10:33:36 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have declared us to be THE OBSOLETE MAN in the Twilight Zone.))
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To: ClearCase_guy

“viral” is often fake hype

Disney signed a singer one time and then released a series of videos of her recording music in her kitchen and those videos went viral. But she’d already been signed to her recording contract and it was a big scam/swindle.

People THINK they are getting “independent” and “real voices” but there are still corporations making the decisions.


74 posted on 07/09/2021 10:34:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: 1Old Pro

“The good programs are all being produced as 10 part “shows” independently and are on streaming services.”

100% correct:

below, is my “Great TV series” list. no particular order; streaming or cable only; fiction with only a few exceptions.

Common denominators are character-driven, excellent story-telling, excellent production values, excellent writing, dark humor.

Deadwood (based on real life events during early days of gold rush in Deadwood, South Dakota ... top ten TV series ever)

Justified (based on Elmore Leonard book, Fire in the Hole ... top ten TV series ever)

The Larry Sanders Show (insanely funny 1990’s HBO series starring Gary Shandling that parodies late night TV talk shows)

The Expanse (EXCELLENT scifi based on book series by James S. A. Corey ... top ten TV series ever)

Sherlock (modern sherlock series starring Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman)

Doc Martin (very engaging UK comedy series about doc in fictional English village who gets nauseous at the sight of blood)

Midsomer Murders (UK dark comedy series about a homicide detective in fictional English county)

Death In Paradise (light weight, UK dark comedy series about an English detective assigned to a Caribbean territory)

Preacher (Awesome, insane bizarre, occult series about a criminal/preacher who accidentally obtains the superpower to compel people with his voice)

Fargo (the series) (Very dark comedy loosely connected to Fargo the movie)

Mr. Robot (good for the first couple of years, but degenerates after that)

Bosch (homicide detective show based on the books by Michael Connelly)

Ray Donovan (series about a Hollywood “fixer” starring Liev Schreiber; really, only the first couple of seasons are good)

True Detective (short-lived detective anthology series)

Hap & Leonard (dark comedy buddy series about two low rent Texas life-time friends, one black and one white based on Joe R. Lansdale books)

The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (comedy about a young Jewish housewife who stumbles into standup comedy in the 1950’s - 1st two years only; totally sucks later)

Silicon Valley (insanely hilarious comedy about a group of Silicon Valley programmers trying to found a startup tech company; vicious parodies of SV companies and personalities)

Westworld (compelling modern series based on the 1973 Michael Crichton movie of the same name -1st season only; totally sucks after that)

Broadchurch (UK detective/crime series)

Happy Valley (UK police crime series set in “council” housing projects)

The Fall (UK detective crime series)

John Adams (excellent mini-series about John Adams)

Foyle’s War (compelling UK detective series set in London during WWII)

Hinterland (UK detective crime series)

Band of Brothers (WWII mini-series)

Weeds (dark comedy series about a broke California housewife wno decides to be a pot dealer - earlier seasons best)

Entourage (comedy series about a young fictional superstar and his entourage)

Californication (insane [and insanely funny] comedy series about a degenerate writer starring David Duchovny)

The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (three movies turned into a limited series - subtitled)

The Wire (superb series about drug detectives in Baltimore - many talented black actors got their start in this series)

True Blood (vampire series based on the excellent Sookie novels by Charlaine Harris - first few years are great; last few years totally suck)

The Walking Dead (the ultimate zombie series - compelling during the earlier seasons, really peters out badly during the last few years, though)

Game of Thrones (awesome until last year which is terrible and last episode truly atrocious) (fantasy medieval world based on Georee Martin books, except the last season when the producers ran out of novels and faked it, REALLY BADLY)

House of Cards [US] (loosely based on UK series; great until the last year, especially the terrible last episode)

House of Cards [UK]

Sopranos (David Chase tour de force about contemporary fictional new jersey mafia family ... top ten TV series ever)

Breaking Bad (compelling series about broke, dying, high school chemistry teacher ruthlessly becoming the world’s biggest meth producer/distributor - top ten TV series ever)

Dexter (sociopath blood-spatter expert channels his homicidal impulses against evil killers who escape justice - based on the Dexter books; disappointing ending, though)

Maniac (brilliant mini-series, grossly mistitled)

Tiger King (imagine if Honey Boo Boo was a documentary, only with tigers, mayhem, and homicide)

Bordertown (Finnish detective series across the river from St. Petersburg; subtitles)

The Office (UK) (Ricky Gervais’s brilliant comedy about a fictional office in the UK)

Hatfields & McCoys (mini-series)

Terriers (detective show; only a single season)

Better Call Saul (spin-off of Breaking Bad; uneven in quality and interest, but SOME great episodes and characters)

Chernobyl (2019 mini-series; must-see TV)

Orphan Black (about a multitude of cloned sisters who discover each other and realize they’re being hunted - earlier seasons are the best)

Portlandia (insanely funny comedy; last two seasons totally sucked, though: the two comedians fired their writers and tried [and failed miserably] to write it themselves)

Rectify (extraordinarily powerful series about a man wrongly-convicted of murder as a teen who is released from death row, and the profound transformations of those close to him and those in the small town he returns to)

Santa Clarita Diet (dark comedy)

Bloodline (drama about family secrets of homicide set in the Florida keys, starts out great, degenerates last few seasons)

The Terror (excellent mini-series based on Dan Simmons’ book, which is based on John Franklin’s doomed 1845 arctic naval expedition)

Archer (animated, fantastically funny, last 2-3 seasons not very funny)

Ugly Americans (animated, one of the funniest series ever made! VERY biting social satire.)

Miss Fisher’s Murder Mysteries (dark comedy: rich flapper turns amateur detective in 1920’s Australia; amazing sets and costumes)

Jack Taylor (engaging short-lived irish detective series)

New Tricks (brilliant, hilarious 12-season BBC detective/murder-mystery series about cold case files investigated by three retired detectives)


75 posted on 07/09/2021 10:36:03 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: bray

Has a nice ring to it.


76 posted on 07/09/2021 10:37:22 AM PDT by Leep (Save America. Lock down Joe Biden!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

The original Planet of the Apes had nudity, violence, and profanity and it still got a G rating on its original release.


77 posted on 07/09/2021 10:37:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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To: Enterprise

The only thing Hollywood puts out worse than their dreadful ‘movies’ is their self-indulgent creepy ‘award shows’....

Yeah, let’s all stand up and clap for the multimillionaires who hate us, hate their country, and hate Western Civilization...’

Eff ‘em.


78 posted on 07/09/2021 10:41:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (ARSON isn't fire violence. RAPE isn't penis violence. Murder isn't gun violence.- Criminal violence )
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To: dfwgator

Barbwire

That was horrific to watch.


79 posted on 07/09/2021 10:42:32 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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To: sonova

Use to be you’d spend a hundred bucks going to dinner and a movie... now the stuff is so boring and dreadful you debate spending $10 bucks a month to stream hundreds of movies...


80 posted on 07/09/2021 10:46:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (ARSON isn't fire violence. RAPE isn't penis violence. Murder isn't gun violence.- Criminal violence )
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