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Judge Says The Air Force Is Mostly Responsible For A 2017 Texas Church Shooting
NPR ^ | July 7, 20212:04 PM ET

Posted on 07/07/2021 1:11:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin

U.S. District Judge Xavier Rodriguez in San Antonio wrote in a ruling signed Wednesday that the Air Force was "60% responsible" for the massacre at First Baptist Church in the small town of Sutherland Springs, where Devin Kelley opened fire during a Sunday service. Authorities put the official death toll at 26 because one of the 25 people killed was pregnant.

Kelley had served nearly five years in the Air Force before being discharged in 2014 for bad conduct, after he was convicted of assaulting a former wife and stepson, cracking the child's skull. The Air Force has publicly acknowledged that the felony conviction for domestic violence, had it been put into the FBI database, could have prevented Kelley from buying guns from licensed firearms dealers, and also from possessing body armor.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: airforce; devinkelley; sutherlandsprings; usaf
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1 posted on 07/07/2021 1:11:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

There’s just no end to vilifying our military.

It’s just disgusting.


2 posted on 07/07/2021 1:17:53 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith……)
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To: BenLurkin

There’s just no end to vilifying our military.

It’s just disgusting.


3 posted on 07/07/2021 1:17:53 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith……)
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To: BenLurkin

“The Air Force has publicly acknowledged that the felony conviction for domestic violence, had it been put into the FBI database, could have prevented Kelley from buying guns from licensed firearms dealers, and also from possessing body armor.”


Right- because the FBI has distinguished themselves so well when having this sort of information beforehand; 9-11, Boston Marathon bombers, Pulse shooter, FedEx shooter....i’m sure this would’ve never happened had the FBI had this information /sarc


4 posted on 07/07/2021 1:18:35 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: God luvs America

So whose fault is it, that the info didn’t get into the FBI database? Is it the fault of the Air Force somehow?


5 posted on 07/07/2021 1:21:07 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

he was discharged in 2014, so whomever obama put in charge back then is the culprit.


6 posted on 07/07/2021 1:23:52 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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To: BenLurkin
Authorities put the official death toll at 26 because one of the 25 people killed was pregnant.

One of the 26 people killed was pregnant.

NPR.

7 posted on 07/07/2021 1:24:34 PM PDT by TChad (The MSM, having nuked its own credibility, is now bombing the rubble.)
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To: metmom

Actually the Air Force covered up and swept under the rug all of Kelley’s crimes and offenses.

In this case the Air Force screwed up.


8 posted on 07/07/2021 1:27:18 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It’s my government that I hate.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yep. A slacker AF Adjutant General Lt. failed to enter it into the FBI database as it was his duty to do. As it turned out the Lt. was not given a General Courts Martial and booted out of the service but had it covered up.


9 posted on 07/07/2021 1:27:58 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Corrupt Slow Joe Biden is the Bolshevik sock puppet.)
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To: BenLurkin; All; PROCON

National Pravda Radio relishes any opportunity to smear the military.

So, is this laying the groundwork for a new work-around to ban all of us Veterans from owning firearms?

Bears watching...


10 posted on 07/07/2021 1:34:00 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: BenLurkin

It does make sense the a felony CONVICTION should have been communicated to the required entities. But one would think that would be the responsibility of the court.


11 posted on 07/07/2021 1:34:01 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: BenLurkin
No, the shooter Devin Kelley is the only one responsible. End of story.

12 posted on 07/07/2021 1:39:06 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ("Success is 10 percent inspiration and 90 percent perspiration." — Thomas Edison)
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To: BenLurkin
Liberals hate talking about the Sutherland Springs mass shooting because it proves the utter failure of gun control laws.

The shooter could not legally buy a gun or ammunition under existing federal law. He could not legally possess a gun or ammunition under existing federal law. Despite all of the gun control laws he was violating, he did not stop shooting people until Stephen Willeford, an NRA instructor living across the street from the church, drove the shooter off with his own AR-15.

Proving once again that to stop a bad guy with a gun you need a good guy with a gun.

13 posted on 07/07/2021 1:39:15 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (Dementia Joe is Not My President!)
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To: metmom

>>There’s just no end to vilifying our military.<<

The upper echelons are doing that all on their own by gayifying the military to the point the services are useless as fighting machines (except maybe bitch slaps and eye scratching).


14 posted on 07/07/2021 1:45:19 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The democrats have just replaced KKK with CRT. /Kevin McCarty 7/6/21)
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To: TChad

I’m surprised they didn’t let him off after finding out he killed a baby in the womb.


15 posted on 07/07/2021 1:56:20 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016 )
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“So whose fault is it, that the info didn’t get into the FBI database? Is it the fault of the Air Force somehow?”

Laws get passed that this or that data must be submitted to this or that database. But it’s an unfunded mandate. However things are working now, that’s what is funded to happen. Some organization that is now required by law to do this or that most likely has no idea they have new requirements because the law didn’t provided for notifying everyone. But for over 100 years, by Supreme Court decision, ignorance of the law is no excuse for not following the law.

I was working for an international manufacturer. They had to hire, at each facility, a specialist whose job was to research the laws and make certain those laws were being followed. The guy at my last facility was pulling down $150k and he couldn’t keep up with the laws. On top of that, the company had subscriptions to pricy legal newsletters that followed specialist areas. Let’s say you have a CFC cleaning device. There may be new federal, state , city or county regulations that could affect you and any of those EPA’s can shut you down. (The reason our guy was paid so much was, if we got shut down it could have cost the $150k each day we were closed.)

Most likely, the AF had no idea they were supposed to submit anything to anyone.


16 posted on 07/07/2021 2:09:33 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Dilbert San Diego

many of the databases were not connected to secure systems and used incompatable computer systems, linux/MS and programs


17 posted on 07/07/2021 2:09:59 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: BenLurkin

No pile of bodies is high enough to stop the woke marxist march to utopia.


18 posted on 07/07/2021 2:26:14 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: BenLurkin

Gosh, and all this time I thought the shooter was mostly responsible . . .


19 posted on 07/07/2021 2:40:37 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: BenLurkin

U.S. District Judge Xavier Rodriguez, why not blame the perpetrator and not the United States Air Force? You are doing what liberals in this country do all the time.


20 posted on 07/07/2021 2:50:06 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent (O)
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