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Reasons for Cohabitation: Woman, "Preparation for Marriage". Man: "Sex, when and where you want it."
RD | 1994 | K.C. Scott

Posted on 06/29/2021 5:15:45 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell

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Before no-fault divorce c. 1967, many couples found themselves in a temporary rough patch of a few months. Because the legal & social supports for keeping the marriage together were strong, many found that they overcame the problem period and were very, very happy many years later. 55 years of the divorce tsunami have not resolved 2 prime issues: The adults are still looking to assuage themselves for their lost dreams. The children regard it as the worst thing that ever happened to them.
1 posted on 06/29/2021 5:15:45 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell
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Kind of a strange story to me. What young couple today in their early 20s - actually planning to live together - doesn’t know about and practice birth control?

Story would have been more realistic if the daughter wasn’t ‘sheepish’, but said, with the typical confidence of youth, that she had ‘taken care of that’.

(Well, within one percent or so...)


2 posted on 06/29/2021 5:24:11 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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Preparation for marriage. They’d have to detail how that works. First place the statistics on marriage lasting for previous cohabitators is seriously compromised

But...girls- tell us exactly how it works. Really.

Prep for marriage includes knowing I’d the guy dotes on his Controlling mother to a sick extent. Can you count on him in a pinch. Get off birth control pills and see how you like him. Pregnant women and women on the pill (hormonally the same) look for different qualities in a man than a celibate woman who is seeking a mate and vice versa. Does he open the door without a fuss, without looking for accolades and adoration, but to consider himself a gentleman (no gentleman has sex outside of marriage, BTW) ditto remove his hat indoors and please in church. Does he go to church? On his own?

Who are his friends


3 posted on 06/29/2021 5:26:15 PM PDT by stanne
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Gynosociety has removed every single benefit from marriage for men.

There is no benenfit anymore, just risk and financial hardship. And on top of it, no one cares about risks for men,,or their financial hardships.

If women got the same deal men get in marriage and divorce, no woman in their right kind would agree to get married.

And they know this.

And married guys also know his,,especially those who have been through the grinder.

Yet they don’t tell young men the truth. They all want them to get screwed over just like they were, because society wants them to and many dumbass guys think, well no one warned me, why should I warn them?


4 posted on 06/29/2021 5:28:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Prepping for marriage involves a whole lot of things starting with acknowledging Yeshua as being the head of the family. You like someone to begin with and you develop your love for each other over time.


5 posted on 06/29/2021 5:30:11 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Identify As Vaccinated)
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Sorry that this poor guy failed at parenting.

By the time they realized their mistake, it was too late. Many apparently completely tune out to their kids until the kids are in their teens and starting to “act out”. But it’s already too late by then. I am sorry to say.

What you do when they are very young pays dividends when they are teens. There is no playing catchup later.


6 posted on 06/29/2021 5:32:25 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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We can always count on you, SAM.

It must have been one horrible divorce...


7 posted on 06/29/2021 5:35:34 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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“As she and her 24-year-old boyfriend marched out the door, I was heartbroken. It was one of the great sorrows of my life. “

The big question is: Did she ever come back?

Oh, and they were most likely already having sex.

I suspect the only thing dad accomplished was an expression of his beliefs and the animus of his daughter.


8 posted on 06/29/2021 5:38:11 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I tried telling my son not toarry tye woman he was living with. And not because of the living together part. His reponse. “ Im not about to take marriage advise from a guy whos been divorced twice”. nice comback son.. . I told him next time his car needs to be fixed,to be sure the guy working on it has never worked on a car before. .


9 posted on 06/29/2021 5:38:15 PM PDT by Ikeon (Not knowing the truth doesn't make you ignorant, not wanting the truth does. )
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“What young couple today in their early 20s - actually planning to live together - doesn’t know about and practice birth control?”

We ran a charity giving baby showers to moms who didn’t abort. We found that many lower class women won’t use birth control because they want children. This was after Clinton got rid of welfare. There are strong biological urges that people have, they’ve been artificially taken out of a stable society that will straighten them out. It’s not very simple.


10 posted on 06/29/2021 5:38:30 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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Like my grandmother used to say, “Why buy a cow when you can get milk for free?”


11 posted on 06/29/2021 5:41:45 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (Dementia Joe is Not My President!)
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To: Jamestown1630

As opposed to one of those good divorces?


12 posted on 06/29/2021 5:42:37 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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Traci Lords in the bedroom, Julia Child in the kitchen. Still a fantasy.


13 posted on 06/29/2021 5:43:31 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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“Yet they don’t tell young men the truth.”

I tell every young man, which by happenstance the discussion comes up, to take their future into their own hands, put on a condom and never marry.

And there ought to be a mandatory course in high school and boot camp: The unwritten, binding clauses of the marriage contract.

That contract is with all levels of US government and most other nations. Not with the girl that wants you to sign it.


14 posted on 06/29/2021 5:43:35 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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It doesn’t sound as if we’re talking about a ‘lower class’ woman in your original post.


15 posted on 06/29/2021 5:43:44 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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Studies from 1985 and 1994 probably don’t mean much these days.


16 posted on 06/29/2021 5:44:38 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Lean on Joe Biden to follow Donald Trump's example and donate his annual salary to charity.)
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Your post illustrates yet again, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Go ahead, convince me how great a deal marriage is for a man in America, today.


17 posted on 06/29/2021 5:53:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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Why buy a cow, when you get the milk for free. (from the Mary Tyler Moore show)


18 posted on 06/29/2021 5:54:33 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal. )
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An old adage that has stood the test of time:
"Why buy a cow when the milk is free?"
19 posted on 06/29/2021 5:54:45 PM PDT by BAN-ONE
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To: Michael.SF.

Excellent post!


20 posted on 06/29/2021 5:55:36 PM PDT by BAN-ONE
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