Posted on 06/13/2021 2:56:08 AM PDT by Libloather
A federal judge tossed out a lawsuit from more than 100 hospital employees who sued Houston Methodist over its policy requiring all staff to be vaccinated against COVID-19.
The workers alleged in their lawsuit that the hospital was "forcing its employees to be human 'guinea pigs' as a condition for continued employment." They also accused the hospital of violating the Nuremberg Code of 1947, likening the vaccine mandate to Nazi medical experimentation on concentration camp prisoners.
US District Judge Lynn Hughes was not sympathetic to either argument, writing in his order of dismissal Saturday evening that none of the employees were forced or coerced to take the vaccine. He also noted that the hospital cannot violate the Nuremberg Code because it is a private employer, not a government.
"Equating the injection requirement to medical experimentation in concentration camps is reprehensible," Hughes wrote. "Nazi doctors conducted medical experiments on victims that caused pain, mutilation, permanent disability, and in many cases, death."
He added that the workers were free to accept or reject a vaccine and that they would "simply need to work elsewhere" if they chose the latter.
"If a worker refuses an assignment, changed office, earlier start time, or other directive, he may be properly fired. Every employment includes limits on the worker's behavior in exchange for his remuneration," Hughes wrote. "That is all part of the bargain."
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I’m not saying it’s right or wrong
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Yes you are.
As the old saying goes, “Sod Off, Swampy.”
Furthermore, previous drugs with that designation did not subjugate healthcare workers to take that experimental drug. It was only given to the patient that appeared to have no other option for survival.
It only becomes a true vaccination once the drug is fully accepted and is so designated as being a fully recognized vaccine.
Well you are on here a lot for being a supposed doctor. I’m thinking you’re a veterinarian. Or you think you’re a doctor because you watched all the Doogie Howser, M.D. episodes.
Who are their attorneys?
Why did they even bring up the “Nuremburg Code”? Is that American law?
The US Code, Title 18 presumably, in any event Federal Law prohibits forcing anyone to take an experimental vaccine, or take part in clinical trials, or be coerced in any way. The End.
Sounds like they got bad dope. Can anybody read anymore?
That’s the thing about the antivaxxer brigade. They are inconsistent. They want absolute freedom until they decide something affects them. Then it’s off to law fare. I am glad the judge spammed their argument.
I think forced vaccination is idiocy and would fight against it everyday
I think people can and have generally made up their mind so any mandates at this point regarding mitigation should be ended.
I think 150M Americans agree enough with the vaccine to have decided to get the shot. It’s their choice
If a business is so short sighted to require a vaccine record to transact then that is a choice a business can and should make. It’s called freedom. I have the choice to not spend my money there. The market will sort it out. So as an above poster asked and then called me a medical tyrant of course a business can bar anyone from their place of business. But it’s generally not a good idea to turn down revenue. So it’s a red herring. The business will either continue at a profit or cease to exist based on its policies.
I think there is and we are seeing signs of a golden age of virology and treatment with monoclonals. This will be amazing.
Fauci is a total moron and should be shunned
The pandemic is ending at least in America because is the combination of natural and accelerated immunity through people who either had the disease or are vaccinated.
It’s the same as every other pandemic except this one got politicized. But it did really reveal that there are not all conservatives on this site
Be well.
Merriam Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccine
HERE IS THE ORIGINAL PRE-2020 DEFINITION:
Definition of vaccine
1: a preparation that is administered (as by injection) to stimulate the body’s immune response against a specific infectious agent or disease: such as
a: an antigenic preparation of a typically inactivated or attenuated (see ATTENUATED sense 2) pathogenic agent (such as a bacterium or virus) or one of its components or products (such as a protein or toxin)
a trivalent influenza vaccine
oral polio vaccine
Many vaccines are made from the virus itself, either weakened or killed, which will induce antibodies to bind and kill a live virus. Measles vaccines are just that, weakened (or attenuated) measles viruses.
— Ann Finkbeiner et al.
… a tetanus toxoid-containing vaccine might be recommended for wound management in a pregnant woman if [greater than or equal to] 5 years have elapsed … .
— Mark Sawyer et al.
In addition the subunit used in a vaccine must be carefully chosen, because not all components of a pathogen represent beneficial immunological targets.
— Thomas J. Matthews and Dani P. Bolognesi
HERE IS THE 2020 ADDITION:
: a preparation of genetic material (such as a strand of synthesized messenger RNA) that is used by the cells of the body to produce an antigenic substance (such as a fragment of virus spike protein)
… Moderna’s coronavirus vaccine … works by injecting a small piece of mRNA from the coronavirus that codes for the virus’ spike protein. … mRNA vaccine spurs the body to produce the spike protein internally. That, in turn, triggers an immune response.
— Susie Neilson et al.
The revolutionary messenger RNA vaccines that are now available have been over a decade in development. … Messenger RNA enters the cell cytoplasm and produces protein from the spike of the Covid-19 virus.
— Thomas F. Cozza
Viral vector vaccines, another recent type of vaccine, are similar to DNA and RNA vaccines, but the virus’s genetic information is housed in an attenuated virus (unrelated to the disease-causing virus) that helps to promote host cell fusion and entry.
— Priya Kaur
NOTE: Vaccines may contain adjuvants (such as aluminum hydroxide) designed to enhance the strength and duration of the body’s immune response.
Except you know as well as I do that the hysteria over the coof was ginned up, and efficacious non-experimental treatments torpedoed, to allow the *ahem* “Emergency Use Authorization”.
One of you pro-jab propagandist trolls literally bragged about “time to market” if I recall the term correctly.
Because Moderna said in their own SEC filing (Wall Street) that their jab as an “experimental gene therapy” and they were having a hard time getting regulatory approval, and that they were $1.74 billion in debt.
But just wave the magic wand and invoke “Because SCIENCE!”™
OK, dude.
Can’t fire as long as vaccines are EUA.
Can’t fire if they’re unionized.
And I’m betting the last thing this health system wants is a court case that leads to some very interesting discovery.
Note to employees: Sue.
You’ll be doing yourselves and the country a great service.
Well I am thinking you are an idiot. You can’t really answer the data and questions so you attack what you perceive to be my schedule. Funny.
Now off to the high priestess for you to beg for atonement.
The definition of the universe before Galileo was geocentric. We have since learned of a concept called heliocentric. We learn and refine our understanding.
You perpetually demonstrate a lack of understanding of the scientific process
True, but that does not change the fact that it is not considered a vaccine when it has been designated as being for Emergency Use Only. It still remains an experimental drug.
That's assuming all deaths from the jabs are honestly reported (they're vastly underreported, see the other articles today about old cases being "disappeared" and other shenanigans).
And you're ignoring, the only reason for the jab is to make Big Pharma *rich*. There are so few benefits that even the HARVARD MED SCHOOL PROFESSOR who was advising the CDC on jabs, and got thrown off for being TOO-pro-jab, said nobody under 70 should get these jabs.
But there are plenty of benefits to driving a car.
BTW, I've openly posted to you twice that use of Ivermectin on patients on ventilators improved their survival by 200%.
You still never responded.
“It is well known if you work in health care vaccines ... are mandated.”
If they have been approved by the FDA, after usually lengthy clinical trials establishing safety and efficacy.
If we were talking about that, you might have a point.
The Covid-19 vaccines are experimental - and known as EUA or “emergency use authorized”, and cannot lawfully be forced on anyone according to federal law, it isn’t any more complicated than that.
Note to employees: It might behoove you to find out if Fedzilla and/or your state is/are promising your health system anything in return for screwing its employees.
Hint, hint...
I will go back snd look at the posts with the data and respond in mind when I have a chance. I am sorry I didn’t see the precious posts asking a question.
I usually do answer all reasonable questions no matter what their perspective is. My apologies for the delay.
“ It still remains an experimental drug.”
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In your opinion, when do the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines cross over and become real vaccines?
FDA approval?
Time?
Number of people tested on?
Something entirely different perhaps?
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