Posted on 05/17/2021 12:35:10 PM PDT by Red Badger
Ahead of a June deadline for an intelligence report on UFOs, the mystery over what the U.S. government calls “unidentified aerial phenomena” was featured on 60 Minutes for the first time. Navy pilot witnesses and former government officials argued this is a serious issue.
The declassified report on UFOs scheduled to be handed over next month was mandated thanks to the $2.3 trillion bill that former President Donald Trump signed into law in December, which contained a "committee comment" from the Senate Intelligence Committee, calling upon the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Pentagon to provide what they know.
Navy pilots such as Cmdr. Dave Fravor, Lt. Cmdr. Alex Dietrich, and former Lt. Ryan Graves, the former head of the U.S. government’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, Luis Elizondo, and a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence, Christopher Mellon, all weighed in on Sunday to say that UFOs are real, though what, exactly, they are remains a mystery.
Fravor, the commander of an F/A-18F squadron on the USS Nimitz at the time of a November 2004 encounter with a UFO, and Dietrich, who had never spoken publicly about it until Sunday, spoke about what they saw when the ship asked them to investigate while separately piloting naval aircraft roughly 100 miles off the coast of San Diego, describing their bizarre encounter with a white “Tic Tac”-like UFO, the existence of which was also caught on camera and radar by the Navy, which they said they spotted hovering above a patch of whitewater in an otherwise calm ocean. They said that they and their respective co-pilots watched for about five minutes.
“So, as we’re looking at this, her backseater says, ‘Hey skipper, do you —‘ And about that got out, I said, ‘Dude, do you see that thing down there?’ And we saw this little white Tic Tac-looking object, and it’s just kinda moving above the whitewater area,” Fravor said, adding that its movements were “just like a ping pong ball — very, very random.”
Dietrich described its movements as looking like what happens if you drop your phone and it bounces around. Fravor said he spiraled down to get a closer look while Dietrich’s plane circled above.
“The Tic Tac is still pointing north-south — it goes ‘pop’ and just turns abruptly and starts mirroring me — so, as I’m coming down, it’s coming up … It was aware we were there,” Fravor said. “I want to see how close I can get, so, I go like this, and it’s climbing still, and when it gets right in front of me, it just disappears … Disappears, like, gone … When it turned and started coming up, it was like, ‘OK!’ Because we have nothing that goes that fast and just starts climbing at will.
“I felt the vulnerability of not having anything to defend ourselves, to not having any rounds, anything on the rails. If this was in fact a hostile threat, and we were engaged … I felt vulnerable, and then, I felt confused when it disappeared.”
PENTAGON CONFIRMS UFO PHOTOS ARE AUTHENTIC
The duo said the UFO appeared on the USS Princeton’s radar 60 miles away a few seconds later, and the “Tic Tac” was also caught on infrared video by another flight crew before it accelerated away. Fravor and Dietrich said they reported it right away and that the reaction on the ship was mostly to laugh about it, with Fravor saying that the crew “started giving us a lot of grief,” while Dietrich said they were met with “ridicule” as crew members proceeded to play Men In Black, Independence Day, and Signs on the ship’s TV.
Fravor said he believed the admiral staff made some phone calls but didn't take it too seriously.
“I’m not a UFO guy,” Fravor said. “Oh there's definitely something that — I don't know who's building it, who's got the technology, who's got the brains. But there's something out there that was better than our airplane.”
Last year, videos from the Navy were released through the Freedom of Information Act that showed UFOs moving at incredible speeds and performing impressive aerial maneuvers. One of the videos was shot in November 2004, featuring the so-called Nimitz encounter, while the other two were shot in January 2015. The three videos were code-named “FLIR1,” “Gimbal,” and “GoFast.” In the 2015 videos, Navy pilots can be heard expressing disbelief. All three UFO videos were captured by Navy F/A-18 Super Hornets.
The videos were made public and published in part through efforts by To The Stars Academy, which was founded by Tom DeLonge, a founder and vocalist for the rock band Blink-182. Elizondo worked to declassify the videos, and Mellon told 60 Minutes he then leaked them to the New York Times. These videos are said to have been a part of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which was founded in 2007 at the insistence of then-Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid but that the Pentagon said ended in 2012.
The Defense Department announced in August that it had approved the creation of an Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force and that the group will be led by the Navy under the "cognizance" of the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security.
Mellon, who had worked at the Pentagon under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, said, “In the case of the Nimitz, these vehicles seem to have unlimited loiter time, which we don’t have. We’re limited in terms of altitude. It’s hard to design something that functions well at ground level that can go to 60,000 or 80,000 feet … and then drop down to the deck or drop to 20,000 feet, and it’s like a straight vertical line … in seconds. … I’ve talked to some of the radar operators who’ve observed that. Then, the acceleration is far beyond anything we’re capable of … There’s nothing we can build that would be strong enough to endure that amount of force and acceleration.”
Elizondo, who spent a couple decades helping run military intelligence operations before joining the AATIP, said in his interview, “Imagine a technology that can do 6 to 700 G-forces, that can fly at 13,000 miles an hour, that can evade radar, and that can fly through air and water and possibly space, and oh, by the way, has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces, and yet still can defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity. That's precisely what we're seeing.”
Graves said that in 2014, his own F/A-18F flight crew repeatedly detected UFOs in restricted airspace close to Virginia Beach, saying that this occurred “every day for at least a couple years.” He speculated it was a “threat observation program” potentially of Russian or Chinese origin and said he was worried because “if these were tactical jets from another country that were hanging out up there, it would be a massive issue, but because it looks slightly different, we're not willing to actually look at the problem in the face. We're happy to just ignore the fact that these are out there, watching us every day.”
The Pentagon has recently begun confirming the authenticity of leaked UFO videos and photos, though it has not said what conclusions it has reached about them. The Biden administration may miss the deadline to release its UFO report, according to Sen. Marco Rubio, who was chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee when it wrote up a 180-day directive for such a disclosure. The deadline is June, and a spokesperson for Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines would tell the Washington Examiner only that the intelligence community is "aware of the requirement and will respond accordingly.”
Rubio told 60 Minutes: "There's a stigma on Capitol Hill. I mean, some of my colleagues are very interested in this topic and some kinda, you know, giggle when you bring it up, but I don't think we can allow the stigma to keep us from having an answer to a very fundamental question."
My FRiend, the topic benefits from debate.
The incident cries out for study.
The reporting cries out for cross-examination.
The cast of participants cries out for investigation.
None of which is shtting.
And more than likely that is exactly what will happen.
We are now deep into the conditioning phase with this ‘report’ making it to 60 minutes.
Covid, lockdowns, UFOs, and the Great Reset are all intertwined IMHO.
agree, brother. no doubt the commies are going all out to consolidate their control. Whatever UAPs are aside, they global commie response will be consolidation of global affairs under their management for our ‘protection’, etc.
While I don’t think it’s likely... it could all be one big psy-op, videos and all..
The UFO matter significantly predates COVID-19 and the Great Reset. Of course, that doesn’t mean that the Globalists won’t try to use whatever is revealed to their advantage.
“There is almost universal agreement that these things ARE real. They do things we don’t know how to do.”
My BIL retired from the Pentagon. Very high up.Now he works for Raytheon. Very high up.
I keep asking him what they. He will not give me an answer, even his opinion.
My gut feeling is they are ours and we are doing a major psyche ops to the Chinese and Russians.
What if they turn out to be ours?
You asked about if it was our enemies, which it is not;
we know this because if the Chinese or Russians or Iranians had this tech they would have used it on us and the other western democracies already.
Your asked about if it was alien tech, maybe it is but I
very much doubt it since there is not a shred of evidence
that ET’s exist, the only evidence for intelligent life
anywhere in the universe is right here on Earth. Of
course maybe this tech is the evidence of alien life,
we’ll have to wait and see.
The one scenario, which is the most likely according to Occams Razor, that you didn’t ask about is, what if it’s our technology?
It’s the Goodrich blimp!!
I wonder how many M class planets there are from say, a hundred light year radius?
My gut feeling is they are ours and we are doing a major psyche ops to the Chinese and Russians.
if they are ours... the russians and chinese know and have known for years... there are virtually no significant military and tech secrets among the global powers these days.
“I think they have been around for thousands of years...”
Christopher Columbus saw similar objects and Foo Foo’s of WWII
More nonsense.
If there should happen to be Extraterrestrial Biological Entities, or trans dimensional beings of any ilk, and should they seek with intercourse of any kind with out species,
our immediate, unequivocal and final response should be “Whatever you want, the answer is no.”
I have helped a few people along these same lines. I ask the person very sincere and credible in every way when claiming to have seen an alien craft, “What did it smell like?” There is never a smell. There is no sound. No exhaust. No wind effect on the trees nearby. “Well, I can’t tell you that you didn’t see something, but I can say if whatever it was, it can zoom across the tops of the trees without shaking them at all, it probably can’t hurt you!” You confirm something anything with multiple senses not just vision.
If the laws of physics are violated, question very closely what you observe or hear.
I would not discount any scenario at this point. It could very well be a big psy-op. The technology is out there to fake this in front of our lying eyes.
Saying this is important... we all need to remember ow our 'elites' screwed us over... Thanks for posting.
In both the Ariel School and Westall School UFO incidents, people reported an odor of sulfur. Same for others.
While this is perhaps a possible explanation in some of these ‘encounters,’ it’s important to fully understand exactly what happened during that now famous 2004 Nimitz encounter (which then routinely happened on Eastern seaboard cruises from 2017 to 2019).
These objects were detected using disparate radar systems. That is to say radar systems that use different radar bands and wholly different radar technologies. In fact, the Nimitz had just installed the latest generation of fire control radar when they encountered all this activity.
Not only were there different radars in use, but they were being emitted from varying platforms, from the carrier to Ticonderoga/Aegis cruiser and Arleigh-Burke destroyer as well as an AWACS and the F/A-18/Ds themselves. It’s important to note that the F-18s couldn’t detect the objects until they were almost on top of them and the Marine F-18s, which used (at the time) the older generation of radar could ‘see’ them only intermittently, if at all.
In 2017, after another upgrade to the targeting pods that hang from the wings of the F/A-18s, the Hornet drivers had a much easier time tracking the objects.
Also, not only were the objects tracked using a variety of radar, but they were also tracked using a targeting system that is augmented with infrared imaging. So, they were seen optically (by the pilots), by a variety of radar systems and by gun-cameras primarily using infrared.
Whatever they were, they were physical objects, not electronic aberrations.
Well there is this in the story:
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“”Yes, AATIP (The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program) existed, and it “did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena,” Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me. However, he added: “Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.””
“I then asked Sherwood how he knew that Elizondo hadn’t worked for AATIP during his time with the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, where he was based from 2008 until his retirement in 2017. Sherwood said he’d spoken with OUSDI leadership, including individuals who are “still there” from the time when Elizondo started working in the office.
“Maybe Elizondo was running AATIP under the purview of another office or agency within the Department of Defense? Sherwood acknowledged that Elizondo “worked for other organizations in DoD.” But that, too, would have contradicted Kari DeLonge’s statement to Greenewald.”
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What’s true/real/fake/false/misleading? Who knows? Everything in the Pentagon is compartmentalized based on need-to-know. If you don’t need to know, you won’t. Do spokespeople for the Pentagon and DoD lie? Sure. Do they know they are lying? Perhaps. What they know may be the lie they were told and are ignorantly repeating.
Do UAP’s exist? In my experience they do. What are they? Who the heck can say for sure.
The timing is perfect to release and introduce this new ‘discovery’.
Heck, the Pope can call them to land in Vatican City and make the introduction himself. For the world to be in awe...
I still say these are inter-dimensional and definitely not inter-stellar.
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