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Weekly Garden Thread - May 1-7, 2021
May 1, 2021 | Diana in Wisconsin/Greeneyes

Posted on 05/01/2021 6:36:52 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

If you have specific question about a plant/problem you are having, please remember to state the Growing Zone where you are located.

This thread is a non-political respite. No matter what, you won’t be flamed, and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. Planting, Harvest to Table Recipes, Preserving, Good Living - there is no telling where it will go - and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us! Send a Private Message to Diana in Wisconsin if you'd like to be added to our New & Improved Ping List.

NOTE: This is a once a week Ping List. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest to Gardeners are welcomed any time!


TOPICS: Agriculture; Food; Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: food; garden; gardening; hobbies
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To: Augie

Nice! Hog panels?


81 posted on 05/03/2021 7:01:33 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: Augie

There you have hit on the key. It is a good idea to find a brand and stick to it in order to manage battery consumption

I have several tools from the ego line but they don’t have a small stand alone cultivator

For me, not having to screw with two cycle gasoline engines is an immeasurable plus


82 posted on 05/04/2021 6:10:43 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) History: Pelosi was pitiful vindictive California crone)
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I'm posting these for Eric in the ozarks

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83 posted on 05/04/2021 7:56:10 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

Thought I’d throw this out there as we have quite a few rural folk on here who would be on well water, and quite a few “handy” types too.

So... I’m out of state last night, driving home to beat severe weather expected; wifey calls and says (shallow) well pump is dead. I try to diagnose remotely (wifey has some capacity to help if directed carefully, is familiar with the pressure switch, etc.) Long story short is that it does NOT appear the problem is the pressure switch contacts.

I arrive home ~ 1-1/2 hours later: pump is very warm & making slight “humming” type sound. Then as I am feeling the other side to see how hot it is, the pump makes a faint click and goes quiet. No smoke, burning smell, etc. The entire pump housing is hot but not skin damage in a second hot. I unplug it, thinking “starter capacitor”, and “the thermal overload cutout may have saved the motor”, leaving the pump disconnected overnight, as sometimes capacitors can “heal” temporarily. This mid-morning I open the bathtub “cold water” valve and plug the pump back in: The pressure switch clicks on, the pump hesitates a second (?), making that slight hum again, and then comes fully on and begins pumping just great. I fill the bathtub and every container in sight with very slightly brownish water. (Typical color after heavy rains, which we got.) I did not hear any mechanical issue such as a jammed impeller breaking free, tho’ I suppose I can’t rule out some sort of excess friction causing the motor to start weakly. However, such frictional issues are usually greater when a motor mechanism is cold.)

I’ve been inside a submersible sump pump but never inside a shallow well pump. Research online indicates such well pumps may have both a start cap and a run cap. I’m thinking access may be a little easier with a shallow well pump, since the whole thing doesn’t have to be sealed for submersion.

Note that this is a two pipe design & info. I found seems (iffy) to indicate this pump may have a little more lift height capacity than pumps designed for wells under 25’ deep. (I think this well may be right at 25 ft. deep.)


Am I on the right track, here, and has anyone on FR ever repaired a problem like this? I do know start capacitors are a VERY common cause of (often disastrous!!) sump pump failures. (I know all too well!) (Pun not intended!!)

P.S. I’m not finding much info. on “Water Ace” pumps online — it looks like it may be a discontinued brand of a company named “Pentair”.


84 posted on 05/04/2021 10:07:13 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

I can’t help you as we are on city water system


85 posted on 05/04/2021 4:05:58 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: tubebender

That’s ok - I figure not 1 in 100 FReepers is gonna know a lot about well pump repairs. Thought I’d give it a shot.

Maybe someone knows of a good website or source of info., or even “kinda general info.” on well pumps. Maybe some sort of forum dedicated to small farms would be a place to look / ask? (We have a garden and some chickens, but this is not a farm. Just nicely — most of the time — rural.)

Lowes apparently sold tons of these “Water Ace” pumps, but all the info. seems to have disappeared into the void...

Thanks anyway!


86 posted on 05/04/2021 5:13:29 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

https://www.ask.com/web?q=Waterace+pumps&ad=semD&an=msn&o=2746&qo=spellCheck


87 posted on 05/04/2021 9:23:03 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Paul R.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Water+Ave+pump+repair+manual&va=b&t=hc&ia=web


88 posted on 05/04/2021 9:28:45 PM PDT by tubebender
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Now that the heat has moved out and the rain has come and gone, I'm looking at a very Spring-like week to get a LOT done in the garden. Yay! I still have some of the house yard to mow today, but I plan on getting in some more spinach, broccoli, cauliflower and some herbs. The majority of the garden will be tomatoes and peppers, but I always wait until at least May 15th for more stable night-time temps. I'm not one to run out there in the middle of the night in my jammies and barn boots to cover things up in case we get frost. Do you know how DARK it is at night where I live? LOL! Very!


89 posted on 05/05/2021 8:03:40 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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90 posted on 05/05/2021 12:47:28 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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A few shots from around 'The Manse' on this gorgeous Spring Day, 2021!

Apple Blossom Time!

A stand of May Apples. Deer and cows use this trail through the woods. So do I. Watch your step!

This is the interesting bloom of the Hickory Tree. We found one in the woods being choked out by some scrap trees, so we cut those down to free it. We should have Hickory Nuts in about 50 years. *SNORT*


91 posted on 05/05/2021 12:55:30 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: tubebender; All

tubebender — Thanks for the links. They did lead me to the (quite thorough) installation manual. A repair manual may simply not exist.

All — I plowed on in anyway: Removing a cover on the compartment on the top of the pump revealed the start capacitor and a 115 / 230 volt switch. I was able to steal two capacitors from another project to get the right capacitance value and a slightly higher voltage rating. That starts and runs the pump. However, the old capacitor does so too: I’m guessing it “healed” well enough for light, temporary use. It shows no outward sign of damage — no leakage, bulges, etc., and the capacitance value is only about 5% low. Internal resistance is low too. If this is a capacitor problem, it is one that only shows up at high voltages and under duress — temperature sensitive, perhaps.

Of note is that since the pump has a 230 volt (AC) operation option, the original capacitor is rated at a healthy 350v AC. That should be quite the overkill on 115 volts AC, making for, I would have hoped, a quite long lived capacitor, for an electrolytic cap. (Maybe it has been - somewhere I was reading that to obtain a low failure rate of start capacitors, they should be swapped out every 3 years? Golly! Maybe that’s with typical Chinese production?)

The substitute cap pair won’t fit in the compartment that held the original cap. At present, I guess I’ll “rig” a little better mount and see if the pump works correctly for a few days. If it does, I’ll assume the old cap really does have a problem, and make up something more permanent.* If it goes out again, then the old cap is not the problem.

*I’ll also probably add an on hand 30 amp 480 volt mercury switch for the high current switching, triggered by the existing pressure switch. Plus I’ll add arc suppression to the pressure switch if any sparking remains. Can you say “overkill”? That should make the pump motor power switching last longer than I do! And the next owner of this place too.


92 posted on 05/05/2021 7:46:37 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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93 posted on 05/06/2021 8:04:32 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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Beautiful clear skies but very windy here on the shore of Humboldt Bay. We could use a inch or two of rain so I will have to water my Garlic & Shallots one more time...


94 posted on 05/07/2021 8:28:13 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
What's not to like----there's flaky pie crust, Nutella, caramel, chocolate chip cookie dough.
Then after baking, it’s served warm w/ ice cream, hot fudge sauce and caramel sauce toppings

Million Dollar Cookie Pie

ING 1/2 cup butter, softened 1/2 cup sugar 1/4 cup packed light brown sugar large egg 1 1/4 tsp vanilla 1 1/2 cups flour 1/2 tsp ea salt b/soda
1/2 cup semisweet chocolate chips 1/4 cup milk chocolate chips Pastry for a single-crust pie 3/4 cup chocolate hazelnut spread 3/4 cup Dulce de Leche

COOKIE DOUGH LAYER elec/mixer/paddle/cream butter and sugars on med 2 min. Add egg and vanilla; mix a min.
Add whisked/combined flour, salt, b/soda; mix/combine. Stir in choc/chips; set aside.

ASSEMBLY line pie plate w/ pastry. Trim and flute edges. Scoop the hazelnut spread into center and spread out evenly;
spread Dulce de Leche over the top. Add the cookie dough and gently press in about halfway up (make cookies w/ extra dough).
Bake 350 deg 20-30 min (top is golden; center almost set. Remove to counter; sprinkle w/ sea salt flakes.
Cool about 30 minutes and then slice.

SERVE with scoop of ice cream and chocolate and caramel toppings.

95 posted on 05/07/2021 5:22:50 PM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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To: Liz

You’re killing me, LOL! We’ve gone Low-Carb so I’ll have to save this one for a few months in as a ‘reward’ for Good Behavior.

OK, maybe a WEEK in for good behavior! ;)


96 posted on 05/08/2021 6:31:20 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I figured it was just a “nourishing snack” after a day of planting and weeding (/s).


97 posted on 05/08/2021 7:48:01 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use. )
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