Posted on 03/08/2021 3:59:27 PM PST by Cathi
"After the second vaccination, 31.3 % of the elderly had no detectable neutralizing antibodies in contrast to the younger group, in which only 2.2% had no detectable neutralizing antibodies."
Conclusion Our data suggests that lower frequencies of neutralizing antibodies after BNT162b2 vaccination in the elderly population may require earlier revaccination to ensure strong immunity and protection against infection."
(Excerpt) Read more at medrxiv.org ...
Yes, the peer-reviewed published studies take a long time to come out. The pre-prints are very valuable for early info especially if others on the same subject reach similar findings.
On Monday, Scottish researchers released data from their vaccination campaign, including more than 1 million people who’ve been immunized, that suggests protection from a single dose peaks and then declines after about five weeks.
“One dose helped protect against hospitalization, with effectiveness peaking about five weeks after immunization at 84% effective at preventing hospitalization.”
“But the follow-up data available beyond that time is where it gets concerning. Effectiveness peaked and then began to decline, going from 84% effective in the fifth week to 61% effective the following week and then 58% beyond then.”
It’s unknown whether that trend would continue beyond that, as that’s all the data the researchers had available.
“They” are now saying the J&J may need a booster
It means it has not been reviewed by other epidemiologists. Raw data which may be false
I’d rather just catch the damned virus and roll the dice.
Fake security versus freedom.
It’s a no-brainer for me.
Live free or die.
Excellent.
Inadvertently, the vaccine EXPERIMENT causes and/or finds a weakness in the immune systems of elderly people.
“Vitamin D3, Zinc and Magnesium”
Every Day...
Probably all good against all sorts of bad actors.
So how does ivermectin stack up against Pfizer for the elderly?
The flu vaccine is the same. There is a more robust vaccine given to those over 65
Superbly. Ivermectin is effective across all age groups.
All of what you say is correct, but, acting under the princple that “knowledge is power”, I hope that FReepers at least know that they do, in fact have a treatment option that they can seriously consider. Tess Lawrie has crunched the numbers on all of the high-quality Ivermectin trials, and, basically, the stuff works:
https://trialsitenews.com/the-uks-dr-tess-lawrie-discusses-her-ivermectin-meta-analysis/
Add that to the Fluvoxamine data (equally compelling, though based on smaller studies), so the informed can demand treatment if they so desire.
It is not working as well in old people who need it much more, than in young people who basically don’t need it at all.
” five weeks after immunization at 84% effective at preventing hospitalization.”
what does that mean?
they got covid and didn’t need hospitalization?
were they even exposed to covid in that 5 weeks time?
it seems some sort of assumtion that reads like some thing great but really doesn’t have a specific meaning so it’s probably baloney information.
Nurse works with my wife took the second shot on Moderna a week ago, dead 48 hrs later with massive brain bleed, only 47. More https://t.me/s/covidvaccinevictims
24 posts in and no one has noticed the slight of reason the article performed?
The vaccines do not produce anti-bodies to the virus, they produce anti bodies to the protein spikes of the virus. Covid anti-bodies found in a person will be from encountering the virus naturally, not from the vaccine. With successful vaccine administration those anti bodies will shrink to zero.
It is not a traditional ‘whole virus’ vaccine. So there are no ‘whole virus’ anti bodies -which is what the PCR test tests for.
Exactly.
Remember, these are EXPERIMENTAL.
If they don't get our old asses the first time, they'll keep trying until they do.
Sources? Please.
Thanks for that link.
Yes you are right and I am a believer in Ivermectin as part of a treatment regimen. It may also be effective as prophylaxis at least to a percentage of those who take it preemptively.
What concerns me is that the institutional response from hospitals and doctors is often going to just parrot the line handed down by the NIH/CDC/FDA which is, in essence, don’t use it. I know there are some good doctors out there, if not for them we wouldn’t know much about either HCQ+ or IVM+ treatments - no thanks at all to the administrative bureaucrats who bet the farm on vaccines and totally neglected money to research treatments. Which is incredibly suspicious on its face and immoral and unethical. IMO they wanted to push this mRNA technology and if they actually showed IVM to be an effective treatment (in double blind placebo controlled studies) then they would have trouble keeping the vaccine trials alive. And, there was no profit to be made from a generic drug, vitamin and mineral regimen so it was not in anybody’s self-interest to look into it. So they threw everyone under the bus hoping these vaccines will work. 20 million unresolved cases in the USA, 100 million plus worldwide and still no approved treatment. But many smaller countries are buying in millions of pills knowing they won’t even get vaccine availability until late 2021 at best.
“Vitamin D3, Zinc and Magnesium”
I’ve been taking those every day for >6 years for general health. Still got bad case of Covid in Jan 2020. Spent 12 days in the hospital.
IMO it’s the viral load that makes one sick. Masks and social distancing do in fact help to minimize the load thus allowing the immune system to deal the it before it multiplies beyond control.
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